dshuld
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Not necessarily, just get one that has "individual" reflectors for each bulb.
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Not necessarily, just get one that has "individual" reflectors for each bulb.
JoXie411
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Ok got it thanks dude
dshuld
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Something like one of these with a wifi timer and your golden. Though, I prefer sunblaze fixtures, one of these is better then that odyssea.
dshuld
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Run the bulbs they come with for 6 months or so then swap for either 2 spectralux 901621, 1 uv, 1 spectralux 901620 (if you have flowering plants, other wise 3 of the 901621's and the uv) or 1 uv, 1 ge F24WT5/835/ECO ( same as with the spectralux, only if you have flowering plants) and 2 ge F24WT5/865/ECO.
JoXie411
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And those all have reflectors built in already?
dshuld
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Sure do
. To give you a better idea, you can see in the pics how the odyssea only has one wrap around reflector where as the others have a "w" shape to give each bulb its own reflector.
JoXie411
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Ok thank you for taking the time to explain all that to be. I appreciate it. Just to just clarify if I buy one of the 3 you posted I don’t need to buy extra lights for at least 6 months, then I change the bulbs out? Sorry if I’m annoyingSure do
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dshuld
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Lol, you're good. Other then buying the uv bulb, no, they come preloaded with bulbs though I'm not sure of what brand the bulbs are.
nightanole
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Another vote for the hydro farm agrobrite. They have individual refectors, and from reading/watching they seem to have high quality ballasts.
dshuld
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@cyberlocc. My white xenon package says they are dimmable but I'll try to verify some time this week still.
dshuld
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Fulham ballasts if I remember correctly?
JoXie411
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Again Thanks a million your the man
dshuld
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No problem, you're welcome.
JoXie411
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Expect a pm from me in the future lol
dshuld
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nightanole
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Yup. At least as of a few years ago.
cyberlocc
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They got back, 85CRI and 4200 lumens, didn't answer the spectrum though.
We there is alot too that.
DLI is a big part of the equation, and there is AFAIK only a few truly high light orchids, Vanda's I think are one and Angrecums another. That's why it's said that Par is what is important.
If your high par plants are all in the top, than ya it will be fine. A Nepthenes that is Lowland can be grown with a T5 when it's 6 inches from the plant. When the plant is 40 inches away, that's when it's a problem.
Keep in mind that alot of plants live in full sun. Full sun outside where I live, on a clear day in spring is 60-70k lumens at the ground.
The other aspect, being of course time per day. So plants have a DLI to Survive and a DLI to thrive. Once you know what those are, and what you want to do, you can figure out your Par, then you can figure out how long of light you need. I have seen people use Lowland terrarium to grow my Nepthenes Madgascarensis, with a 8 bulb T5, from 30 inches away, they also had to run those lights for 16 hours per day, something we don't do with Chams. Even then, they are 30 Inches light to dirt, I am 45.
My biggest aspect of wanting LEDs over Flos personally though, more than just high light. Was dimming.
Once my cage is done, everything will dim, even the UVB bulbs. So it will ramp, and wane just like the sun. So there won't be 45k lumens for 12 hours, but for maybe 2-4, the rest of the day, will be much lower, ramping up and ramping down, doing from a warm sunrises to cool afternoons back down on its way out.
If you hit up a DLI calculator and know what your plant needs, you can size for survive, and size for thrive.
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Chameleon Mike
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SunBlaster 901877 T5 High Output 6500K Replacement Lamp, 2-Feet https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BN18YYE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_ZTtlDbX6QRVCX
What's your thoughts on this one?
What's your thoughts on this one?
dshuld
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That is an extremely over priced bulb lol. Look for spectralux 901621 or ge F24WT5/865/ECO. If buying multiples, I'd google though as they can be had for less with shipping then Amazon will charge.
