Shaky head!!!
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chameleonneeds
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Maybe he got scared or something.
What have you been feeding him other than the usual, did you feed him so bug you found in your house?
What have you been feeding him other than the usual, did you feed him so bug you found in your house?
Champhibians
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I believe that is a sign of MBD, I have never had this happend but I remember reading about this. I will try and look up some old threads on this to help you out.
Champhibians
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Here are a couple I just searched, if you would like to read more just go to search, then type in shaking or twitching, alot will come up.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/my-veiled-chameleon-shaking-16029/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/urgent-possible-mbd-case-19174/
I really hope this help you.
https://www.chameleonforums.com/my-veiled-chameleon-shaking-16029/
https://www.chameleonforums.com/urgent-possible-mbd-case-19174/
I really hope this help you.
Chameleon Company
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Tintin
I have seen this before, about a dozen times, and discussed it with others before, only I do not believe in this forum. What we have observed is that it occurs in half-grown or larger animals. It occurs in animals that otherwise seemed fine LTC. We have not been able to pin it on any deficiency. Antibiotics did not seem to make any difference, under the belief it could have been a bacterial issue with their inner-ear/balance. In most cases, it slowly improved over 3-6 months. About a third of the time, the animals perished after 4-8 weeks, as they were rendered too helpless, and possibly other issues had developed. It has never seemed contagious, and if it were, we would likely know. When one animal in hundreds develops a problem, it doesn't give you much to go on. We just don't know, and like to limit speculation without a better basis to go on. Short of advice resulting from a vet check, I would just recommend helping it along over the coming months if it seems to have difficulty getting food and water, and otherwise hope it slowly improves, as we have seen.
I have seen this before, about a dozen times, and discussed it with others before, only I do not believe in this forum. What we have observed is that it occurs in half-grown or larger animals. It occurs in animals that otherwise seemed fine LTC. We have not been able to pin it on any deficiency. Antibiotics did not seem to make any difference, under the belief it could have been a bacterial issue with their inner-ear/balance. In most cases, it slowly improved over 3-6 months. About a third of the time, the animals perished after 4-8 weeks, as they were rendered too helpless, and possibly other issues had developed. It has never seemed contagious, and if it were, we would likely know. When one animal in hundreds develops a problem, it doesn't give you much to go on. We just don't know, and like to limit speculation without a better basis to go on. Short of advice resulting from a vet check, I would just recommend helping it along over the coming months if it seems to have difficulty getting food and water, and otherwise hope it slowly improves, as we have seen.
ciafardo 4
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THANKS JIM!!!!!!! guess its not the old go to MBD but boy we sure love to give that diagnosis for everything now dont we! sarcassim!!!!!!!!
Chameleon Company
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Cia,
Well, there's so much we don't know. These symptoms could be indicative of ten possible. and very different, maladies. Vet checks can get pricey, but a full fecal and blood work-up might show areas needing improvement. And it is possible that such improvement would help these symptoms. We call this the "wobbles" the few times we have seen it. For all I know, I saw a dozen different sicknesses, all with the same outward symptoms of wobble head and severe balance issues. Maybe some day we will know more.
Well, there's so much we don't know. These symptoms could be indicative of ten possible. and very different, maladies. Vet checks can get pricey, but a full fecal and blood work-up might show areas needing improvement. And it is possible that such improvement would help these symptoms. We call this the "wobbles" the few times we have seen it. For all I know, I saw a dozen different sicknesses, all with the same outward symptoms of wobble head and severe balance issues. Maybe some day we will know more.
laurie
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Chameleon Company
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Hey Laurie,
Got me laughing Let me reword that (note that I am also a sponsor of this forum, and that costs money, btw).
..... I have participated in discussions on this illness before, although I do not believe that any of those discussions occured in this forum .....
Now, take a deep breath
Got me laughing
Let me reword that (note that I am also a sponsor of this forum, and that costs money, btw)...... I have participated in discussions on this illness before, although I do not believe that any of those discussions occured in this forum .....
Now, take a deep breath
summoner12
Avid Member
Got me laughing
..... I have participated in discussions on this illness before, although I do not believe that any of those discussions occured in this forum .....
Now, take a deep breath
LOL I read it how you meant it Jim, the first time.
haha im reading her quote thinking 'what is the big deal.... he hadn't talked about it here before....
laurie
Retired Moderator
Okay so there are some people whose opinion I value, so shoot me. Why do you think I am on here all time?? To learn.
Chameleon Company
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Hey Laurie,
Heck, it was really pretty funny, and let me explain why. Like happens to so many of us, we write quickly, and think that the syntax and everything else is OK. Then your note made me read it with a very different emphasis, and I was like "Geez ! I didn't mean that" while also realizing it could be read as you did. So it was a good reminder to add the extra word or two. I am sure an English teacher from long ago could scold me with a "if you had studied harder .... ", and I would agree. In the end, I will remember this illustration for some time, and try to avoid similar mistakes. Thanks.
Heck, it was really pretty funny, and let me explain why. Like happens to so many of us, we write quickly, and think that the syntax and everything else is OK. Then your note made me read it with a very different emphasis, and I was like "Geez ! I didn't mean that" while also realizing it could be read as you did. So it was a good reminder to add the extra word or two. I am sure an English teacher from long ago could scold me with a "if you had studied harder .... ", and I would agree. In the end, I will remember this illustration for some time, and try to avoid similar mistakes. Thanks.
laurie
Retired Moderator
hey Jim, all is fine. I am a nut and i worry about the dumbest things. I am always woring that one of my chams has something wrong with it. Not likely with only 9 chams who I monitor and baby way too much. Thanks for all the information you share with us. You really are a fountain of knowledge.
summoner12
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I think we are all hear to learn. I think we all have different views, hence yours and mine. It was no slight on you.
