Lunatic913
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have anyone of you guys ever purchased a chameleon from these guys and if so...what's your input on them? dependable? thnks alot for any replys
I have been looking into Panthers for several years doing as much research and talking to as many people as I could in anticipation of finally getting one. While I have never talked to anyone at screameleons, they never seemed to have anything I would be interested in. Really low to no inventory and when the babies were available, you had know idea what the sire looked like.
After talking with Kammerflage Kreations several times I ended up getting one from them. They always have a complete inventory of panthers for sale. Not just a baby or 2 but clutches of babies. Look on their site right now. They have 6-7 clutches of Amibilobe Panthers alone (plus all other popular strains) all with different fathers and mothers. You also get a chance to look at the sire from that clutch. If a clutch from a particular male you want is sold out, in 2-4 weeks another is usually available.
Good luck in your search!
I have bought chameleons from
all of the top breeders in the business and in my opinion Vince has the
best of the best!!!!!!
I don't understand what you mean by not knowing who the sire is when
purchasing babies from Vince at Screameleons. When he posts babies for
sale there is always a picture of the sire and the dame unless they are
captive hatched specimens then there is know way of telling who the
sire is because the babies came from a wild caught female!! So if you
see a baby for sale on his site and there is no pics of the sire it's
because there captive hatched specimens which I myself have just
purchased. I have bought two captive hatched male ambanjas from
Vince in the last week!! I can tell you from dealing with panthers over
the last ten years these two males are the best I have seen in at least
the last 4 years I have gotten panthers!! I have bought chameleons from
all of the top breeders in the business and in my opinion Vince has the
best of the best!!!!!!
Ha hah, Tyler got the "even".Well that just goes to show you that you havent gottin anything from Mike w/ Flchams,Pam w/ Pamschams, or even Tyler
Well that just goes to show you that you havent gottin anything from Mike w/ Flchams,Pam w/ Pamschams, or even Tyler with Bluebeast reptiles. Because those three companies are the ones with the best of the best chams!!!!!!! Maybe you should try and purchase from them.
I know Mike, he lives two hours south of me in Ft. Meyers!! I have a friend
who has purchased a couple of chams from him and is very pleased, he just
doesn't have what I am looking for!! I believe that is what you said in your
above statement about Vince!! As far as Pamschams, I have never found
anything I like on her site either!! I have purchased from Tyler Stewart and
have been somewhat dissapointed in the animal I got but I won't go into
detail here as to keep the piece on this forum!! Vince has the BEST hands
down!!
But to bad those chams Vince sells aren't his he buys his babies he doesnt breed everything on his own like the others do .
Hey listen all i can say is if you think Vince has the best of the best chams then great. But to bad those chams Vince sells aren't his he buys his babies he doesnt breed everything on his own like the others do .
Hey, this thread is getting ugly.
Personally, I wouldn't hesitate to buy from any of the mentioned sellers. Let me add to that list... Amazing Blue Reptiles and Chameleon Company. All of the mentioned sellers above have amazing animals.. Tyler has the best looking male sambava in captivity anywhere right now, IMO. Pam has some of the most beautiful ambilobes and nosy bes I have ever seen. Mike has got some amazing WC males of a few locales. The Kammers have beautiful chameleons, too. Not sure what the fuss is all about, and being disappointed with the colors a baby grows up to display is just part of the fun. Not every baby grows up to be a mirror image of the sire, just like beautiful people sometimes have ugly children, and vice versa.
Accusing a breeder of intentionally misrepresenting their animals is serious business, and certainly should be backed up with proof before being posted on a public forum. I hope you have it. Since this thread directly affects Screameleons, I am going to email Vincent so he can defend himself.
Heika
i didnt mean to start a war over here lol...i have also looked into bluebeast chams' and i've seen those in person. they have a nosy be ambanja that im interested in also....ugh! im so confused. o well i will make my decision shortly
Thank You, Heika!! Buy the way this is Geoff the guy you bought the nosy
be from in Florida!! How is he doing??