Panther chameleon concern

[CameronMcneill]

Hello, I have a 1 year old male panther chameleon. I'm not sure if I have just noticed it, or it has just appeared, but he seems to have some loose skin in between his front legs. I guess you would say it is where his "chest" is.... Is this normal?

 

[sandrachameleon]

possibly some edema
is it like there is fluid (rather than solid) in the extra fold of hanging skin?

 

[CameronMcneill]

Ya it's not solid, it just feels like extra skin, possibly liquid.

 

[camimom]

What's your supplement t schedule?

 

[CameronMcneill]

Calcium and minerals with d3
And reptivite without d3
...
He gets each one about 2 times a week

 

[camimom]

Well I think that's partof your issue. Calcium without d3 should be every feeding, and calcium with d3 should be twice a month

 

[CameronMcneill]

Ok, also, I'm looking at the ingredients of each of these, and I am not finding
Vitamin A. I need to go get this, correct?

 

[CameronMcneill]

Strange about the d3 once a month, it says on the bottle to alternate days with vitamin

 

[camimom]

Chams can overdose on d3. Most of us don't use it that way. As it has been known to cause issues.

 

[CameronMcneill]

Ok good to know, the vitamin supplements (reptivite) should be everyday though? What about calcium ?

 

[Tay And A]

Switch to repashy calcium supplements

 

[camimom]

Calcium without d3 every feeding.
Calcium with d3 twice amonth.
Multivitamin twice a month.

If you've been using the relativity every day or twice a week, stop using for at least 30 days. I'm betting this led to your chams gulag edema.

And water water and water.

 

[carol5208]

I have a chameleon that has this condition. I have had him for a year and he came to me that way and the previous owner said he was like that for a year and a half before I got him. I took him to the vet when I first got him. There is really nothing they can do for him. It comes and goes but of late has stayed. I have tried different supplements, no supplements, cutting back on supplements, taking certain feeders out of the diet, etc and nothing really works. From what I can see it is not life threating or my cham would have been dead 2 years ago. If you figure something out, please let me know!!!!. My cham is over 4 years old and got it when he was about 1 1/2 yrs old from the way I see it. I read about giving the chameleon Mylanta to get rid of the edema but I really did not want to mess with that. Like I said obviously it is something that is not going to kill them immediately.

 

[sandrachameleon]

Well I think that's partof your issue. Calcium without d3 should be every feeding, and calcium with d3 should be twice a month

while this is generally accurate - it does depend on the BRAND of supplement and how you gutload.

inadequate hydration can also cause edema

You generally want to provide calcium every time you offer a bug that has the wrong calcium to phosphorous ratio. So crickets you should regularily dust with a vitamin and phosphorous free calicum/mineral powder. Snails or butterworms or terrestrial isopods, when properly gutloaded, require NO supplements at all.

use the vitamins supplementary to a good diet - usually once a week or less.

Whether or not you need preformed vitamin A is a subject of some debate, but most on this forum will suggest providing it at least twice a month.

more info to help you decided what is best for Your particular situation:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/65-supplements.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/174-whats-supplements-brand.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/olimpia/573-chameleon-physiology-supplements.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/75-feeder-nutrition-gutloading.html
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/sandrachameleon/336-more-not-necessarily-better.html