novice keeper - Veiled in trouble

[Nursemaia]

Im so sorry to hear that.

Hahaha Delaware born and raised. Once you accept that you can never leave, it's not so bad here.

 

[Nursemaia]

That's the same as ours then I guess! Hoppers I feed are about 35mm long

It's cute you call them hoppers. Our locust are big. Look like the upper right corner pic

 

[Virgil1972]

Hahaha Delaware born and raised. Once you accept that you can never leave, it's not so bad here.

Sorry because you live next to New Jersey.

 

[ZacharyLeesWife]

Haha. I can't @Nursemaia. I'm from Florida, transplanted in the great white North. Ya'll are weird up here. Just putting it out there. And those aren't locusts, they're grasshoppers.

 

[Aidan43]

Nope, no locusts over here. Normally, I would recommend hornworms for hydration because that normally would help with impaction too. Can you find waxworms?

Not sure what hornworms are (moth catipillar/larvae?), not available here anyway.
I have wax worms to kept for treats - read they're not great nutritionally and quiet fatty so probably not appropriate for my obese girl!

 

[Aidan43]

Hahaha Delaware born and raised. Once you accept that you can never leave, it's not so bad here.

They're locusts this side of the pond lol

 

[Virgil1972]

Not sure what hornworms are (moth catipillar/larvae?), not available here anyway.
I have wax worms to kept for treats - read they're not great nutritionally and quiet fatty so probably not appropriate for my obese girl!

Im not sure but I believe hornworms are available in the U.K. They are a moth caterpillar.

 

[ZacharyLeesWife]

That's the same as ours then I guess! Hoppers I feed are about 35mm long

Not sure what hornworms are (moth catipillar/larvae?), not available here anyway.
I have wax worms to kept for treats - read they're not great nutritionally and quiet fatty so probably not appropriate for my obese girl!

You definitely won't be able to find hornworms. Waxworms aren't great nutritionally, but they're really fatty so if there's an impaction they are excellent laxatives.

 

[Aidan43]

Im not sure but I believe hornworms are available in the U.K. They are a moth caterpillar.

Ok, think they are catipillar of what we call generically hawk moths - not commercially available here

 

[Nursemaia]

Florida is pretty weird too and I agree they're grasshoppers but they are a locust too as Locusts are certain species of short-horned grasshoppers in the family Acrididae that have a swarming phase.

 

[Aidan43]

You definitely won't be able to find hornworms. Waxworms aren't great nutritionally, but they're really fatty so if there's an impaction they are excellent laxatives.

Ok may give her a few, do you pierce first? Ones she regurgitated were whole still after 3 days!
Need to get vet to re-check scan/X-ray s first I guess

 

[Aidan43]

Florida is pretty weird too and I agree they're grasshoppers but they are a locust too as Locusts are certain species of short-horned grasshoppers in the family Acrididae that have a swarming phase.

Agreed, on grasshoppers/ locusts .. no comment on Florida!

 

[ZacharyLeesWife]

Ok, think they are catipillar of what we call generically hawk moths - not commercially available here

We call them hawk moths, too. They're really great for hydration. @Nursemaia normally I wouldn't even admit to being Florida born and bred, but I am among friends here lol

 

[kinyonga]

Grasshoppers are called locusts when they go into a migratory or swarming phase.

 

[Nursemaia]

I don't recommend force feeding her if there's the possibility of an impaction. Especially since she's vomited the other feeders.

 

[Aidan43]

I don't recommend force feeding her if there's the possibility of an impaction. Especially since she's vomited the other feeders.

I haven't exactly force fed - she opened her mouth ajar, I popped the hoppers inbetween head first and she chomped down chewed and swallowed - I have syringe fed water tho as concerned about hydration when not eating at all earlier

 

[kinyonga]

Be careful she doesn't aspirate the water (getbit in the lungs).

 

[Nursemaia]

She is obese so I wouldn't feed her. I'd focus on hydration and syringe a few drops in at a time of pedialyte. If there's an impaction you don't want to keep putting more food on top of the blockage and she will be ok without eating for a few days.

 

[Nursemaia]

Put the syringe far back in her mouth to avoid aspiration

 

[ZacharyLeesWife]

I haven't exactly force fed - she opened her mouth ajar, I popped the hoppers inbetween head first and she chomped down chewed and swallowed - I have syringe fed water tho as concerned about hydration when not eating at all earlier

Hydration is paramount. She can live without a meal or two, but she doesn't need to dry out.