Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Slattern, Aug 7, 2018.

  1. Slattern

    Slattern New Member

    I bought my veiled chameleon this may, knowing he had health problems, mainly he was blind in one eye,
    and that he had some vitamin deficiencys. He is about 1.5 years old and male. He gets crickets once a day(about 4-5) and vitamined once a week (without d3), however, he did not have the vitamins for the first four
    Months I got him, which brings me to the problem I have right now. Yesterday some of my crickets got out, and I know he got 12 at least. So I didn't feed him anything for the rest of the day, but this morning he didn't eat at all, which doesn't seem strange until you know this: since he is blind in one eye, I feed him from a 5gallon pail so he knows where it is,and he only goes there when he is hungry. He sat there for three hours until I decided to see if he was indeed hungry. He didn't eat those for a an hour when I started to worry because he was shaking, and was very very tightly holding the bucket so I sprayed the habitat to see if he was dehydrated. When the water hit him, he started to run, but it is very weird..... it's like he tries to take to step, but pulled back before he does. This video is of a very light"case" i had, hopefully you get the idea, but multiply the "stuttering" tenfold.
    I'm a little worried it might be MBD because of the lack of vitamins for so long. As for the the breeder, I trust the pet store, it's local, and I can't say who they got it from. They were taken element care of, so that is out of the question.

    Thank you for taking the time to read this, and I will answer any questions you may have
    [Could not get the video to work, will work on it later]
  2. JacksJill

    JacksJill Chameleon Enthusiast

    Shaking can be a sign of calcium deficiency. If you can get him to drink his water with liquid calcium that would be a first step until you get into see the vet. He may need calcium injections. Just a guess it's hard to tell until you can place the video.
    Does he ever get D3? he needs that to use calcium properly.
  3. Slattern

    Slattern New Member

    No I haven't given him the d3, because every website I read said absolutely not, but I'll start now.
    the other problem is that there is no hero vet anywhere around here.
    I'll add the vitamin to his dropper, thanks for the response
  4. Slattern

    Slattern New Member

  5. JacksJill

    JacksJill Chameleon Enthusiast

    You will have to buy the liquid calcium. It comes in a liquid form you can dilute it a little. D3 should be given to Panthers and Veiled twice monthly. Your UVB bulb may not be giving him enough to make his own D3. Natural sunlight may help him make his own if you can get him outdoors.
    If you can filling out the how to ask for help form may help people spot any other gaps in his care.
    I'll check back to see the video if you can load it later.
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  6. Slattern

    Slattern New Member

    Thank you for your help, I will
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  7. Slattern

    Slattern New Member

    Here is a quick update! He is doing fine now, stopped shaking, and last night he ate and drank. I 're did his cage and he is happy once again,

    Now I noticed that his frill is quite white, meaning he is dehydrated, right? So now I need tips on improving my dropper, more specifically the drinking portion. What do they like to drink off of, where, does it matter how close it is to the ground?

    Thanks JacksJill
  8. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Avid Member

    No, absolutely not. He is not happy once again. Nothing has been resolved here. He is just between episodes right now. You must still fallow through with everything discussed above. Based on the basic questions your asking you do not have a working knowledge of basic chameleon husbandry.

    If you could please fill out the form like Jill asked and provide complete pictures of your Cham and viv so we can identify the other gaps in your husbandry. Please don’t take offense to the criticism, your chams health depends on it.
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  9. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Avid Member

    ... and the video too!
  10. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Avid Member

    I’ll make it easy for you, here are the questions we need answered.

    Chameleon Info:

    ◦ Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?

    ◦ Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?

    ◦ Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?

    ◦ Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?

    ◦ Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?

    ◦ Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?

    ◦ History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

    Cage Info:

    ◦ Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?

    ◦ Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?

    ◦ Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?

    ◦ Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?

    ◦ Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?

    ◦ Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?

    ◦ Location - Where are you geographically located?

    Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.


    Please Note:

    1 The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.

    2 Photos can be very helpful.
  11. JacksJill

    JacksJill Chameleon Enthusiast

    Glad he is improving but he’s not out of the woods yet. Let’s see if you were misled about his care anywhere else.
  12. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Avid Member

  13. Graves923

    Graves923 Avid Member

    OP will be back next time this happens... Hopefully the chameleon does better
  14. Brodybreaux25

    Brodybreaux25 Avid Member

    He have a history of going MIA after posts? Never mind he’s only been a member a couple days...

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