Greenhouses

Discussion in 'Enclosures And Supplies' started by Motherlode Chameleon, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    It is one of or if not the best way to recreate a tropical rainforest outside the tropics.

    Chameleons work the best.

    Long before I joined these forums I had a Phelsuma grandis that escaped that lived in the greenhouse when it was primarily just a giant free range. I had bamboo poles connecting areas of free ranges to other areas. I happened to look inside one of these poles one day and found about 5 Phelsuma grandis eggs. They ended up hatching and for a winter I had 6 Phelsuma grandis free ranging inside the greenhouse with one of my Panther Chameleons.

    Greenhouses are neat.
     
    #121 Motherlode Chameleon, Nov 3, 2013
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  2. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    I just got done installing lamps inside the greenhouse. I had been rotating everyone from inside the greenhouse to my aquarium room for UVB requirements except for my Parsonii. As during the summer when the greenhouse is extremely humid and wet I was reluctant to install extra electrical equipment. The lamps are a sight to be hold at night, here is how they look:D. On the technical side I'm going with the Zoo Med Reptisun 10.0 for the lights for extra UVB. Due to some new recruits I just have to put in some blinds this weekend and the greenhouse is done for now.

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  3. Saldarya

    Saldarya Established Member

    Jeremy,

    What would you say was your driving purpose for the greenhouse? Space? Temperature? Natural Environment? Humidity?

    I ask this because I have often considered putting a large greenhouse in my backyard (multiple acres) and moving the animals in there.

    My concerns are this however. Lack of UVB unless I use a UV transparent acrylic which really drives up cost. Temperatures. Although it would be great for me in winter (max lows of 35 degrees), summers would be brutal at 95+ and I cant use a swamp cooler due to high humidity.

    So, if I look at my 'Chameleon Room', temps are controlled, Humidity is perfect, and clearly lighting needs are provided artificially.

    I love the idea of having them outside year round, and I do get them out for weeks/months at a time when weather permits, I am just trying to understand why a greenhouse would be beneficial unless it resolves issues specific to the climate in which you live.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  4. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    Bobby

    Space, Temperature, Natural Environment, Humidity, and along with just moving the chameleons outside of main living areas of the house are the main purpose for keeping my chameleon inside of a greenhouse. I would say after all my experience and research I have found it to be the best way to recreate a tropical environment outside of the tropics. They can be difficult at times and expensive however if you are a devote chameleon keeper they are worth it. I have considered a second greenhouse for chameleons and some extra jobs I'm doing since I have got an agriculture degree.

    However, if you have not got good UVB exposure for your chameleons that is a huge issue that has got to be taken care of. If I had to have it done again or for a second greenhouse, I would acquire a greenhouse with a skin that allows UVB rays to penetrate through.

    I would plan on matching the greenhouse conditions to the kind of chameleons you plan on keeping. I would say if your in an area where you have got high humidity and a greenhouse cannot drop the humidity to the ranges you require. You should plan on working with another chameleon species or make other arrangements.

    Jeremy A. Rich
     
  5. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    I got the opportunity for some pictures with the Halide on after I closed the shop for the evening. Here is how the lamps look for those of you who are aspiring to greenhouses with lamps one day.

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    As well along with one of the bonus's of keeping enclosures in a greenhouse is the growth of this great moss. This happens in areas that receive enough direct light and moisture.

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  6. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    Here's a picture of Rhino AKA "Bruce Banner" as he is such a hulk and is the biggest chameleon my brother has ever seen.

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    #126 Motherlode Chameleon, Nov 11, 2013
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  7. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    Here's some pictures of some of the chameleons in the greenhouse.

    My Calumma parsonii parsonii.

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    My Trioceros pfefferi

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    My Trioceros deremensis

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    Trioceros jacksonii merumontanus.

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  8. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    An announcement the greenhouse is officially filled with chameleons for the first time in a long time. As of now I have got species from the genera Calumma and Trioceros living in the greenhouse. I have got the aquarium room terrariums to fill. However after all these years of being away with a busy schedule and not being around, due to attending UC Davis and Internships, to take care of my chameleons it has not been appropriate for me to buy as many chameleons or breed many chameleons prefer. It is great to once again have the greenhouse filled.

    Best Regards
    Jeremy A. Rich
     
  9. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    I still have got to modify the metal halide in the greenhouse. As of now as seen on my Avatar I am using the metal Halide as a shop light and not using it for applications as a source for UVB for my chameleons yet!!!

    Best Regards
    Jeremy A. Rich
     
  10. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    These are some photo's of my greenhouse, enclosures and chameleons from today.
    My greenhouse.
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    Some of my chameleon enclosures.
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    You have a look at "Charles" my male Trioceros deremensis.
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    Some of my chameleons.
    My female Furcfer willsii.
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    My female Calumma parsonii parsonii "Trudy".
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    My female Trioceros werneri.
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  11. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    This is a recent photo of Rhinos from a couple days ago.

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  12. laurie

    laurie Retired Moderator

    Now that is my boy. Hello Rhino, how are you? Your gf is growing.:D
     
  13. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    Laurie we know you are a fan of Rhinos. He is no boy though he turned 8 years old this year. Rhinos and Trudy had some good time sunning today.

    Best Regards
    Jeremy A. Rich
     
  14. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    These are some of the greenhouses that were near my apartment when I attended classes for my Bachelors Degree at UC Davis. Just some of a plethora of greenhouses that the University owns.

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    #134 Motherlode Chameleon, Mar 13, 2015
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  15. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    These are some photos of Backwater Reptiles chameleons from earlier that day.

    A Male Yellow Lip Calumma parsonii parsonii
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    A Male Calumma brevicornis
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    A Female Calumma malthe
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    A Male Furcifer oustaleti
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    Sam thanks for letting me visit your facility.
     
    #135 Motherlode Chameleon, Mar 13, 2015
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  16. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    These are some more of Backwaters Reptiles chameleons. Again Sam thanks for letting me visit your facility.

    A Male Kinyongia xenorhina.
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    A Male Trioceros cristatus
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    A Male Trioceros johnstonii
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    #136 Motherlode Chameleon, Mar 13, 2015
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  17. Motherlode Chameleon

    Motherlode Chameleon Chameleon Enthusiast

    I finally made good on an old promise to my self and got a pair of young tropical tortoises for the greenhouse. The idea is that when they are older they can control the weeds and other non toxic foliage growth in the greenhouse. I am looking forward to the day when they are old enough for that task.

    Best Regards
    Jeremy A. Rich
     
  18. Rango3d

    Rango3d Avid Member

    Hey Jeremy
    I've seen your greenhouse posts for a couple years and you inspired me. So this summer I took a cheap harbor freight smaller greenhouse and modified it.
    My problem here was it gets too hot or too cold.

    Solution, I insulated the walls and half the roof. The other half of the roof has poop out windows for perfect days. Most of the year they get natural sunlight and UVB lighting for the rest. The temps stay around 80-90 during the day regardless of the weather.
     

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  19. Rango3d

    Rango3d Avid Member

    These are some older pics when it was still in progress. Just haven't taken any fresh 1s.

    But thanks for the inspiration. :)
     

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  20. junglefries

    junglefries Established Member

    Make sure to clean those 'poop out windows'. Never seen anyone do fecal checks like that before. :D
    Greenhouses should be a prerequisite for keeping chameleons. In my opinion, the only true and humane way. In all fairness, I myself am forced to use cages due to living in a townhouse. Makes me feel guilty sometimes. I do take advantage of my skylights and had french doors installed in the back room. I can swing them out to let in sun when the weather permits. I converted my shed once for herps, but am afraid of theft. It's a no win situation. Looks GREAT Jeremy. A true responsible chameleon keeper.
     

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