Dehydrated Sleepy Cham

Discussion in 'Health Clinic' started by Niki0625, Jul 16, 2017.

  1. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    image.jpg IMG_7733.JPG IMG_7743.JPG Hi. I am a new Cham mommy. Our little Rocket is a few months old, male. We've had him for a month. He's usually really "happy" and loved to lay on his basking branch. For the last 2 days, he has been lethargic, sleepy. He hasn't came out of hiding all day except for when we took him outside for about 15 min. He didn't darken in the sun like he usually does. His poop looks good but the other stuff is orange. He won't drink much even though we have been encouraging it. We've tried hand feeding but he's not interested. The temp in the cage is about 80 and 60% humidity.
    Any ideas how we can get our little guy feeling better? Thanks in advance!
     
  2. Classy

    Classy Member

    I see a bowl of water on the bottom of the cage I believe. He won't drink from that. You will need to spray the cage with water for him to drink. Not sure if you are already doing that.
     
  3. kinyonga

    kinyonga Chameleon Enthusiast

    Do you have a UVB light and a basking light on the cage? What's the temperature in the basking area?
    What supplements SPECIFICALLY do you use and how often for each? What do you feed/gutload the insects with specifically?
     
  4. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    It's not a drinking bowl. It's just there to catch the water from the dropper. We had a plant under it, but this seems to work better to keep down them mess. We spray the plants several times a day and use the digger when the humidity gets low. Thank you!
     
  5. Classy

    Classy Member

    Ahhh, that's actually a really good idea.
     
  6. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

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    Hi. Thank you. We do have both. Basking temp is about 87 right now. It's usually right about 90. I'm including a pic of all our supplements and stuff. The calcium and vitamins are daily, calcium with d3 on the 1st and 15th.
     
  7. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    Thank you! I meant "fogger" not digger. :)
     
  8. Classy

    Classy Member

    90 is a little hot for a chameleon that's only a couple of months old. I'd bring it down to maybe 84 or 85. The chameleon forums care sheet says this: by/juvenile (<9 months): ambient 72-80F (22-26C), basking 85F (29C)
    Adult males: ambient 75-80F (23-26C), basking 90-95F (32-35C)
    Adult females: ambient 75-80F (23-26C), basking 85F (29C)
     
  9. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    Ok. Thank you. We just bought him a new tree so, when we reconfigure we will make sure it's a little lower.
     
  10. Virgil1972

    Virgil1972 Avid Member

    I would invest in an automatic mister if I were you. They are much better than doing it by hand. Are you sure he is a he? Sleeping during the day is a bad sign and a vet visit may be in order.
     
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  11. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    Pretty sure he's a he. He fits all the criteria. We are going to hand mist for now until we finish the new iguana house. Then we will repurpose his. Our vet is closed now and we won't be able to get him in until tomorrow afternoon. I'm trying to do what I can to get him to drink and or eat in the meantime.
     
  12. Virgil1972

    Virgil1972 Avid Member

    I would get him checked for parasites when you go.
     
  13. kinyonga

    kinyonga Chameleon Enthusiast

    It's recommended that youcarrots sweet potato, sweet red pepper, squash, zucchini, etc dust only twice a month with the vitamin powder. I would use fresh greens (dandelion greens, kale, endive, escarole, collards, etc) and veggies () and a bit of fruit (berries, apples, pears, melon, etc) to feed/gutload the crickets with.

    Has anything changed in the room he's in in the last couple of days? Is there a vent or window near his cage? Did you nput on the air-conditioning?
    It's not good that he's sleeping during the day and lethargic.
     
  14. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    That's good to know. The package says to give it daily. I will switch the vitamins to 1st and 15th schedule. Could that be what's making him sick?

    Nothing has changed near his cage. He is near a window and a vent, but the vent is closed and blocked. Would the window bother him? It's insulated so it doesn't let much heat in.

    I know it's not good. That's why I want to help him. But the emergency vet isn't familiar with these guys so we have to wait for the regular vet tomorrow.
     
  15. kinyonga

    kinyonga Chameleon Enthusiast

    You have to be careful with fat soluble vitamins like D3 and prEformed vitamin A because they can build up in the system and cause health problems. I'm not a vet but I don't think that would be his problem....I'm just making you aware of it. Beta carotene is a prOformed source of vitamin A and you don't have to worry about that but reptivite has prEformed vitamin A in it...so you want to be more careful with it. D3 and vitamin A need to be in balance. D3 from exposure to UVB usually doesn't cause problems as long as the chameleon can move in and outnof it at will.


    Do you use a dripper to water? Mist?
    There's no toxic plants in the cage?
     
  16. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    We do have a dropper and we most several times a day. We have all Cham safe plants that were washed and repotted in organic soil. The soil is covered with large rocks so he can't eat it. Thank you.
     
  17. Niki0625

    Niki0625 New Member

    Update: we took rocket to the vet today. She says he looks great. That he's a little skinny. That I'm doing all the right things. We couldn't get a poop sample probably because he hasn't been eating much, so she gave him meds for parasites. She also gave my poor little dude a shot in the tummy with fluids to help with the hydration. That has seemed to improve his spirit a bit. He is now basking but he is still pretty sleepy. Our fingers are crossed that he will be back to normal soon. Thanks to everyone that responded with concern for my little guy.
     

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