I got a cham from the Krammers over a year ago and have been very pleased.
In no way was Manga misrepresented. I had pictures of both his parents and the Krammers were able to (quite successfully) describe his adult coloration. He was bright, alert, and healthy upon arrival. I was given very explicit instructions and the Krammers were available by phone when I called with any questions. They were very knowledgable and forthright.
I believe that though they run a business by raising chameleons, they are able to provide a full time commitment to the animals they raise. There are too many "backyard breeders" out there that give no thought to the animals they raise nor the welfare of the numberous babies that come from even a singular clutch.
This thread is the first time I have heard anything bad about the Krammers and I hope that any disparaging remarks can be verified and are not just based on rumors. it is very easy to make an off-handed remark without even mentioning your qualifications that allow you to make such an accusation.
There are a number of professional breeders that are in the US and many of them are members of this forum. Aside from the "squabbling" that occurs about the "origins" of the imported chams, I truly believe that most, if not all of them, care about the care and the welfare of the chams they produce.
This forum differs from many others in that this community tries to be optimistic and helpful. I , personally, would appreciate if all members to try
refrain from deviating from this goal.
Matthew Wheelock, DVM