My baby veiled chameleon died :(

Hannah04

New Member
I'm so heartbroken! My new baby veiled chameleon has died :( i don't know what to do... I thought I was doing everything right..

Please if you think there is anything I can do or change if I decided to get Another let me know...

Chameleon Info:

Your Chameleon - The species (veiled chameleon), sex (believed to be male!), and age of your chameleon (unsure of age) . How long has it been in your care?( one week )
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? ( just a few times, mostly to show him his feeding dish, in the pet store they just threw the crickets in, I fear my cage is too big to do that for him yet and he won't find them as there is so much more room )
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham?( crickets) What amount? ( So far he has only eatten 1-2 a day :() What is the schedule? ( Feed him around 10am) How are you gut-loading your feeders?( carrots, lettuce, apple slices and the cricket food from the pet store)
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule? Exoterra calcium, exoterra multivitamin, and rep cal phosphorus-free calcium with d3. Calcium with every feeding and Calcium with d3 and multivitamin twice a month
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? ( looking into a dripper and misting) How often and how long to you mist? 3-5times a day for about a minute- minute and a half) Do you see your chameleon drinking?( haven't seen him drink yet)
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings.( white. Paste-y or brown) Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?( not that I know of)
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you. (Bought him at pets unlimited.... :S)

Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) (screen terrarium) What are the dimensions? (24h x 24w x18d)
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? (Exoterra reptile uvb 100, 26w-former repti glo 5.0 compact- and an exoterra 75w daylight spot basking light "sun glo") What is your daily lighting schedule? (All lights on at 7am and off at 7pm on a timer)
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? (Basking spot 78*-80*) Lowest overnight temp? ( Down to 70*) How do you measure these temps? (Exo terra thermometer)
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? (30%-50%) How are you creating and maintaining these levels? (Misting 4-5 times a day and looking into a dripper) What do you use to measure humidity?(exo terra hygrometer)
Plants - Are you using live plants? ( No live plants, trying to find a ficus benjamina) If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? ( a corner in the living room) Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? ( not near any fans, air vents, semi close to bathroom door) At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?( not sure, probably 3.5-4feet)
Location - Where are you geographically located? ( Nova Scotia, Canada)

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.


Pictures are helpful
 

camimom

New Member
IM so sorry he died.

I dont see anything off in your set up.

Most likely he was sick when you got him, since you only had him for a week.

Any chance you got some photos of him before he passed?
 

Hannah04

New Member
I did get photos before he passed, I feel a little odd but I took one after aswell, because his eyes are black.. And his casque as well, and around his legs and spots on his tail.. Is this normal?
 

camimom

New Member
Once they pass, its common for them to turn black.
Can you post the photo from when he was still alive? Id like to see if i can tell his age.

Most likely, he was too young, and already sick when you got him.
 

Hannah04

New Member
I can try,I'm not very good at posting pictures,

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camimom

New Member
Didnt work.

Click post reply, the paperclip in the utility bar, browse your computer, upload, close the window, click the paper clip again, then click insert attachments.
then submit reply.
 

Decadancin

Moderatoris Americanus
Staff member
Very sorry to hear this. The first few weeks are often rough on these little guys and if they are not in the perfect health it can be too much for them. Sounds like you have done your research and have a good setup, but sometimes that's not enough if there is an underlying issue. Sorry for your loss :(.
 

camimom

New Member
Hes maybe 2-3 months old. about the age he should be when sold.

Honestly, I dont think you had anythign to do with it.

He was sickly when you got him, and the stress of a new environment made it worse.

Im so sorry you lost him.
 

Hannah04

New Member
I just called the pet store I got him from, they cannot give me money back but he was within the 15 day health guarantee.. They can replace him with a new one. But that's pretty much all they can do.. Should I do this?
 

camimom

New Member
Thats up to you.

If the new one is alert, eating, drinking, walking around, i might, simply because you are already out the money you spent on one.
 

Decadancin

Moderatoris Americanus
Staff member
If you are not ready, you could ask them to honor that deal in a month or so. Just tell them you want to disinfect everything (which I would do anyway) and make sure that there are no lingering issues.
 

Hannah04

New Member
Thanks for the kind words everyone, I have decided to wait,but could only get a store credit.. I'm nervous about getting another chameleon from the store.. So now I'm without a little friend and stuck with a large amount on a gift card... I'm just very unsure of what to do at this point
 

Hakai

Member
Wow, I hate pet stores so much when it comes to chameleons. If I were you, I would buy a veiled from one of the sponsors of this website, or just a breeder in the classifieds section. Then I would take the gift card and buy some chameleon items for your enclosure or supplements or something and give your new cham the best enclosure you can. Or you can just use the gift card for cham food for the next few months. Either way, I don't think you should get another one from the pet store.
 

Lukie Pookie

New Member
Wow, I hate pet stores so much when it comes to chameleons. If I were you, I would buy a veiled from one of the sponsors of this website, or just a breeder in the classifieds section. Then I would take the gift card and buy some chameleon items for your enclosure or supplements or something and give your new cham the best enclosure you can. Or you can just use the gift card for cham food for the next few months. Either way, I don't think you should get another one from the pet store.
I really agree. It would be worth your money to get a chameleon from a trusted site like screameleons or lllreptile. With this you are almost guaranteed a healthy chameleon and your able to look at their parents and such. It would be worth your money to buy a chameleon that is in good shape and spend that gift card on some treats for your Cham. Best luck to you if you do buy a new Cham Andy I'm sorry about your loss
 

ReptileLove18

Established Member
i'm so sorry to hear you lost your new friend! i had a similar experience. my first cham was a sickly baby when i got him and died soon after.. its hard losing them but it was not your fault in any way. i hope you will get another sometime as they are great creatures and when you get a healthy one, a long time friend :)

i agree that you should not get another from the store. another good, reputable breeder is Tiki Tiki Reptiles. they have amazing veiled breeders, a good health guarantee, very kind people, and take good care of their animals. i would get your next baby from a good breeder and just use the card for supplies from that store!
 

ChamMan15

New Member
I am so sorry for you, I do not have a cham myself yet, but i could not imagine how sad i would be if this happened to me shortly after i got him. :(:(:(

and if your looking for an explanation camimom is most likely correct. so sorrry for your loss :(:(

"Honestly, I dont think you had anythign to do with it.

He was sickly when you got him, and the stress of a new environment made it worse.

Im so sorry you lost him."

- sorry camimom, messed up with the quote thing :eek:
 
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