Health of my Chameleon / Possible MBD? Not shooting tongue out.

GinaFrus27

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Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - Vailed chameleon, Male, 5 years old. I've had him since he was a baby.
  • Handling - Only when cleaning the cage.
  • Feeding - Crickets, super worms, wax worms, 5 to 8 of one of the feeders gut loaded daily, I switch up what i feed him between the three main feeders throughout the week. I gut load with lettuce, apples, orange cricket cubes.
  • Supplements - Repti - Calcium without D3 daily, Repti- Vitamin once a week.
  • Watering - I have a cool mist humidifier running throughout the day, misting by hand 2 to 3 times daily. I mist for about 2 minutes each time. I see him drinking almost always.
  • Fecal Description - White urates, stool has been very runny which is a concern. He has never been tested for parasites.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Repti - Breeze screen cage. 2 feet wide by 4 feet tall.
  • Lighting - Zoomed 10.0 UVB spot light, Zoomed 5.0 UVB strip light, 100 watt house bulb for basking. Lights are on from 8A.M. to 8P.M. daily.
  • Temperature - Basking spot is 90 to 100 degrees. Lowest overnight temp is about 60 degrees, maybe a bit higher. I have a temp gauge near his basking spot.
  • Humidity - Humidity ranges from 30 to 60 percent. I have a cool mist humidifier on the cage all day. I also have a shower curtain covering 3 sides of the cage to help maintain the humidity. I also have a gauge to measure humidity as well.
  • Plants - I am using two large live plants at the moment. They are both Royal Cane tropical plants.
  • Placement - My cage is on the floor in my bedroom. He is normally not bothered and it is quiet. I have a ceiling fan that i only will put on during the summer if it gets to hot in my room. His cage is next to a window also.
  • Location - I am in New Jersey

Current Problem - I've noticed that now he is having trouble shooting his tongue out. He used to hunt throughout his cage for crickets and shoot his tongue out, now I have resorted to hand feeding him since I noticed he was having trouble recently. Also I just wanted to see if overall he seems healthy. Thank you all in advance. :) I've attached photos of him as well for reference.

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kinyonga

Chameleon Enthusiast
How often do you change the UVB light bulbs?
Could he have injuries the tongue shooting for an insect?
Does your vitamin powder have D3 in it? Or prEformed vitamin A?
I don't see any obvious signs of MBD.
 

GinaFrus27

New Member
I have been changing the bulbs once a year. Should I be changing them sooner?
I just realized that his calcium supplement has D3 in it. Is that ok to be giving him daily?
I just looked at his herptivite, and I couldn't find any vitamin A in it.
Honestly I dont think he would have injured his tounge going for an insect, but I'm not sure. Thanks for the reply.
 

kinyonga

Chameleon Enthusiast
It depends on the bulb how often you have to change it. I just have to start off asking questions to give me an idea of what's going on...eliminate things that are or aren't likely to be the problem.

The D3 in the calcium could be a problem depending on how much is in there or how heavily you dust...but have you been using the same product for his whole time with you?

My idea for years has been to dust lightly twice a month with a phos free calcium/D3 powder to make sure they get some D3 but not overdose it and let them produce the rest from their exposure to the UVB. I dust at almost every feeding with a phos free calcium powder too and twice a month with a vitamin powder with a beta carotene proformed source of vitamin A.
Preformed vitamin A and D3 from supplements can build up in the system and cause health issues so we need to be careful of them.

You said the stool has been runny...is that something that started at the same time as the tongue issue?
 

GinaFrus27

New Member
When he was a baby and though the time he was a juvenile I was giving him calcium without D3. I still have some of that actually. Ive been giving the calcium with D3 for awhile now. Would it be better to use the calcium without D3 at every feeding and use the calcium with D3 twice a month?

My vitamin has beta carotene, which I didnt realize was vitamin A so I'm good there. I will also cut back to when I give him the vitamin to only twice a month. I was giving that to him once a week. The tounge issue started a few weeks ago. The runny poop has been that way for the past couple days. It almost has no brown in it. It seems like it's mostly mucus which worries me.
 

kinyonga

Chameleon Enthusiast
I would only use D3 twice a month....but don't know if your old powder is still good.

As for the poop...might be a good idea to get a parasite test because it's runny.
 

Ares05

Avid Member
@kinyonga has already said all of the main things, but I just wanted to say..

Stop running your fogger during the day. You are going to give your chameleon an RI doing that. You should only run a fogger during the coolest parts of the night. Heat + excessive humidity = RI. Humidity only needs to be around 30-40 during the day, and then it needs to be around 80-100 during the night.
 

GinaFrus27

New Member
Sometimes during the day my humidity level goes down to about 20 percent because I have the heat on in my home. Is that still okay, or should I run it a little bit through the day?
 

Ares05

Avid Member
What I do is I mist for 4 minutes in the morning, and then 4 minutes in the evening. This keeps my humidity up quite nicely.

I noticed your cage is a little bare. I would add some more live plants, and more branches.
 

salty dog

Chameleon Enthusiast
Humidity can be 100% during the day with no problem as long as there is fresh air...FRESH AIR with humidity is not a problem..... I'd turn off fogger during the day, linear uv light is critical to have
 
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