Health clinic Stickies!!

[Elizadolots]

I like the idea of a subforum for "common problems" at the top. There could be stickies within the subforum. It would accomplish the addition of lots of information without adding a lot of "stickies" to the main forum.

The "subforum" thing works really well in the Enclosure's forum.

I question the idea of letting everyone post in those though. Inevitably it would become a discussion because people would disagree.

I think a better plan might be to make the subforum's "read only" for the masses, with moderators having the powers. Ask those who want to contribute to post their contributions in the main health forum. If the mods feel one is good, they can move it to the subforum. If multiple posts are deemed worthy on one topic, they can be merged into one thread.

That's just an idea though.

I do think this is a good concept.

The search function is limited by its exactness and its inability to process short words. If there's a "red thing sticking out of my chameleon's butt" the search ignores red, out, of and my.....It might get some good hits, but it might not.

 

[laurie]

I like the idea of a subforum for "common problems" at the top. There could be stickies within the subforum. It would accomplish the addition of lots of information without adding a lot of "stickies" to the main forum.

The "subforum" thing works really well in the Enclosure's forum.

I question the idea of letting everyone post in those though. Inevitably it would become a discussion because people would disagree.

I think a better plan might be to make the subforum's "read only" for the masses, with moderators having the powers. Ask those who want to contribute to post their contributions in the main health forum. If the mods feel one is good, they can move it to the subforum. If multiple posts are deemed worthy on one topic, they can be merged into one thread.

That's just an idea though.

I do think this is a good concept.

The search function is limited by its exactness and its inability to process short words. If there's a "red thing sticking out of my chameleon's butt" the search ignores red, out, of and my.....It might get some good hits, but it might not.

You were thinking the same as I thought. We write them, they are sent to one member who checks them sends the link to Brad who makes them a read only sticky. Then it becomes do they all go in a new forum, or put in each forum. I would vote for all together in one forum.


I can take the idea to Brad unless someone else would like to step up???

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

I'm planning on having a specific section for this kind of thing (for health problem recognition and advice) in the new owner resources that are in the works. That might a good place to bring it all together. Then we can get them all up and see how well that works before making drastic changes to the rest of the forum structure. It would be a central location, easily accessible and easily referenced, instead of a little here and a little there. Pushing it out to more locations in the future might be a great thing too, but it would be my suggestion to start it off in one area first. Just my 2 cents.

First we need authors.

 

[Solid Snake]

You were thinking the same as I thought. We write them, they are sent to one member who checks them sends the link to Brad who makes them a read only sticky. Then it becomes do they all go in a new forum, or put in each forum. I would vote for all together in one forum.


I can take the idea to Brad unless someone else would like to step up???

I didnt think of doing it like that.
That could work.
I think a list of topics should be made.
It needs to be as short as possible, while still covering all/most categories.
That way we dont have 25 stickies at the top of the forum ;/

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

I think a list of topics should be made.

Here's one to get you started...

This list is being used to help organize the section, 'common health problems'. Will Hayward gets a lot of credit for starting this list. If you have any suggestions or items you think that should be removed or added, please post here.

• Burns
  • Superficial Burns
  • Severe Burns
• Dehydration
  
• Dysecdysis: Abnormal Shedding
  
• Dystocia: Egg binding
  
• Edema
  
• Fatty Liver Disease
  
• Gout
  
• Hunger Strikes
  
• Impaction
  
• Limb Fractures
  
• Metabolic Bone Disease (MDB)
  
• Mouth rot
  
• Nail Loss
  
• Obesity
  
• Parasites
  • Ectoparasites: External Parasites
  • Endoparasites: Internal Parasites
    • Intestinal Parasites
    • Subcutaneous Parasites
    • Hemoparasites (Blood)
    • Lungworms
• Poor Digestion
  
• Prolapse
  • Hemipenal Prolapse
  • Cloacal Prolapse
• Respiratory Infections (uri, ...)
  
• Rickets (can put under mbd)
  
• Stress
  • Visual
  • Thermoregulatory
• Sunken Eyes
  
• Tongue Paralysis
  
• Weakness

 

[ataraxia]

I started a eye problem thread. It can be changed to what everyone decides in the end. but it is a basic idea and we can start producing info there.

 

[Solid Snake]

-Burns
-Dystocia: Egg binding
-Emergency
-Eyes
-Impaction
-Metabolic Bone Disease
-Mouth
-Neo-Natal
-Nutrition
-Parasites
-Prolapse
-Infections


That is my vote for a list.

 

[ataraxia]

maybe skin problems instead of burns..we could list burns, fungus, bacterial, wounds and bruises under one?

emergency is broad.

Also gravid female problems. you could include egg binding, edema, colorations, lay bins, etc under one.

combine mouth and nose problems?

 

[Solid Snake]

maybe skin problems instead of burns..we could list burns, fungus, bacterial, wounds and bruises under one. emergency is broad.

Also gravid female problems. you could include egg binding, edema, colorations, lay bins, etc under one.

combine mouth and nose problems?

I like consolidating to "Skin"
Emergency would be a section for say, huge gushing cuts, burns, accidental amputations, and all quick emergency type info someone might need to know when the chameleon has had a terrible accident.

Hmm, mouth and nose can be combined yes...

...so...

-Skin
-Baby/Mother Chameleons
-Emergency
-Eyes
-Impaction
-Metabolic Bone Disease
-Mouth/Nose
-Nutrition
-Parasites
-Prolapse
-Infections

 

[Solid Snake]

-Emergency
-Nutrition/Supplementation
-Metabolic Bone Disease
-Gravidity/Neonatal
-Skin
-Eyes
-Mouth/Nose
-Infection
-Impaction
-Prolapse
-Parasites

More better/\
I think its still a little long though.

 

[Elizadolots]

It sounds like Ferret has a pretty clear picture of what should happen and is in a position to make it happen.

Maybe we should follow her lead on this.

 

[ataraxia]

Ferrets list:
Burns
Superficial Burns
Severe Burns
Dehydration
Dysecdysis: Abnormal Shedding
Dystocia: Egg binding
Edema
Fatty Liver Disease
Gout
Hunger Strikes
Impaction
Limb Fractures
Metabolic Bone Disease (MDB)
Mouth rot
Nail Loss
Obesity
Parasites
Ectoparasites: External Parasites
Endoparasites: Internal Parasites
Intestinal Parasites
Subcutaneous Parasites
Hemoparasites (Blood)
Lungworms
Poor Digestion
Prolapse
Hemipenal Prolapse
Cloacal Prolapse
Respiratory Infections (uri, ...)
Rickets (can put under mbd)
Stress
Visual
Thermoregulatory
Sunken Eyes
Tongue Paralysis
Weakness

Personally the list is professional and very extensive. Awesome list but it is also lacking important frequently asked questions. Just my personal opinion. When it gets to the parasite part i will personally have to google search a parasite to see where it fits in to understand We also have to keep in mind we have young kids coming here for help.

These right here are in 9 out of 10 threads in the health clinic section. Like ferret said early in this thread. We need to keep it simple.

Eye Problem
Dehydrated
Lethargic
Gravid Female Problems
Skin Issues
Parasites
MBD
Respiratory Infection
Mouth/Nose Issues
Appetite
Feces/urates
colors
Prolapse
undigested food
sleeping napping

How do we break the frequently asked questions into a smaller list.

We need information to keep going. I have started two threads.

Skin issues and Eye problems.

We need pictures and information!

 

[Solid Snake]

Ferrets list is extensive.
However its not a list for what we need in this application.
For that matter, Ataraxia, is there a stated goal here?
Ferret has obviously already started work in this direction, and would have a great "view" on making this work.
I dont think the goals are the same though.
I think my list is too long.
Alot of common issues, will be talked about under different catagories, and could maybe be consolidated.
For instance, MBD is a big issue, and needs to be kept in the open, where people can become aware of it. While explaining supplements and nutrition however, its going to(should)come up. So if proper nutrition is already being laid out, and we go over MBD, does it still merit its own sub-cat?
Is this work about "Common Questions"
, "Common Problems"
or "Important/Beginner Problems/Info" or what exactly?
These are the questions that we should answer first.

 

[kinyonga]

I think having health issues and even other issues such as supplementing, breeding, etc. should all be done as stickies....but I also think that they should be closed so comments can not be added without permission to keep the stickies from getting too long and complicated.

I think it would be good if they could be in the appropriate forum but without adding a whole lot of sticky threads at the top of each forum, if you know what I mean.

 

[ataraxia]

I think it would be good if they could be in the appropriate forum but without adding a whole lot of sticky threads at the top of each forum, if you know what I mean.

yes exactly!

 

[ataraxia]

Ferrets list is extensive.
However its not a list for what we need in this application.
For that matter, Ataraxia, is there a stated goal here?
Ferret has obviously already started work in this direction, and would have a great "view" on making this work.
I dont think the goals are the same though.
I think my list is too long.
Alot of common issues, will be talked about under different catagories, and could maybe be consolidated.
For instance, MBD is a big issue, and needs to be kept in the open, where people can become aware of it. While explaining supplements and nutrition however, its going to(should)come up. So if proper nutrition is already being laid out, and we go over MBD, does it still merit its own sub-cat?
Is this work about "Common Questions"
, "Common Problems"
or "Important/Beginner Problems/Info" or what exactly?
These are the questions that we should answer first.

I recently thought what if we have different stickies labeled the main common things like Eye problems, Skin Problems, Mouth Problems, Lethargic, Dehydrated, Nutrition, Baby care, ETC. or maybe a main sticky labeled COMMON PROBLEMS and once that is clicked maybe a list of sub categories like listed above. Any member that would like to contribute information to these stickies. Blog the Problem, Symptoms and treatments and post it in the appropriate sticky with a link to your blog. These stickies are not to be commented on. All that is needed is "to the point" useful information. If you would like to comment, post it on the blog. This would be easier for a new member or senior member or even a guest to look up what some of us would recommend as a solution to a problem they might have.

We do have a search button but many opt out of not using it. Other also say it is useless. I have used it many times over and find it helpful but again it is not straight to the point.

I dont explain anything right and my grammar skills are less than par. So to start this off with an example.

Sticky thread title "Dehydrated".
I would post from my blog. The title of the blog and link.
Shower Chamber Treatment
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/ataraxia/594-shower-chamber-treatment.html

Dehydration and Solutions *Force Fluid tips*
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/ataraxia/454-dehydration-solutions-force-fluid-tips.html

Sticky thread title "Eye Problems"
Common Eye Problems and Solutions
https://www.chameleonforums.com/blogs/ataraxia/404-common-eye-problems-solutions.html

What do you think???

The direction i personally had in mind is started now in the threads labeled "Skin issues and Eye problems" in the health clinic. i would like a simple reference for anyone visiting these forums with common issues to find the answer and anyone searching for more knowledge again that simple reference to go to.

 

[ataraxia]

It would be nice to be able to go straight to one thread. Look at pictures and find what relates to a problem.

The MBD sticky is already intact. We just need a few more like it! without crowding the top of the list of threads~

 

[kinyonga]

You said..."It would be nice to be able to go straight to one thread. Look at pictures and find what relates to a problem"...I agree.

Concerning each thread though...it would be better IMHO without posts included in it saying "good thread", "good that you rescued that chameleon" etc. so that it only contained information about the issue and how to correct/prevent/etc. it.

 

[ataraxia]

couldnt agree any more.

 

[Solid Snake]

Couldnt "another forum" of just these Stickies be made, and then accessed through one sticky at the top of the health section?

So we would just have one sticky added, named "Whatever" at the top of HEALTH.
Then that could just take you into a list of all the stickied threads, which would be cleaner all around. I dont think they should have any kind of responses either. Just little "lessons" on the subjects, leaning heavily towards chameleon keeping, by one author.