Psychobunny
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"Hahaha don't they live on like opposite sides of the world?"
Which only ADDS to their confusion!!
Which only ADDS to their confusion!!
Why do male Parsons look so much like male Fischers?
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Solid Snake
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Carlton
Chameleon Enthusiast
Right...and, there are several other species that have similar rostrals on BOTH sides of the Mozambique Channel. Evolving species started to express this common trait in different ways over time. Let's see...off the top of my head there's F. willsii and bifidus. B. fischeri's rostrals don't look like C. parsoni parsoni really. Theirs includes more of a shovel-like flattened base that fischeri doesn't. Even old panthers with heavy rostrals give the impression of parsoni sometimes.
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SaintJimmy
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I like the similarity but I understand some guy might go to buy a fischers and then NOT know much about chams and accidentally buy a parsons and give it the wrong care!
The rostral is pretty and all but it could get confusing. But then again the prevalent yellow eyes in parsons males (some of them).
I didn't know they lived so closely.
What exactly are the horns for?
The rostral is pretty and all but it could get confusing. But then again the prevalent yellow eyes in parsons males (some of them).
I didn't know they lived so closely.
What exactly are the horns for?
Carlton
Chameleon Enthusiast
NOT very likely!!! A fischeri might cost $100 but a parsoni may cost over $1400! A fischeri is a lot smaller than a parsoni and a juvenile would be a completely different color. B. fischeri have very smooth suede-like skin while parsoni tends to have more texture in it. The alarm/stress patterns are very different. Their head shape is different even in babies, their temperment is different, they are just very different.
Horns may be used in territorial shoving matches, used to identify gender and species to other chams, and to display maturity or fitness.
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
They actually when you are up close to them are not similar at all other than the couple previously mentioned similarities between Kinyongia matchiei and Calumma parsonii cristifer. The scales on a Parsonii are much softer than any other chameleon I have ever kept and much softer than any Kinyongia that was included considered in the fischeri group of chameleons. The overall head and legs seem much bigger too on Parsonii compared to body size than any Fishers chameleons. There are more taxonomical differences too.
Solid Snake
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Hey Saintjimmy, Ive got this excellent "parsonii" for sale, dirt cheap
Sticktongue
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Hey Saintjimmy, Ive got this excellent "parsonii" for sale, dirt cheap
me too. 500 each. That's less than half price! Joking aside, look at other types of animals. They have similarities with their cousins
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
Joking aside, look at other types of animals. They have similarities with their cousins
Your a bit premature and I do not think you know what's going on nobody sold anyone a Parsonii for $500.00. Especially a Calumma parsonii cristifer
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SaintJimmy
Avid Member
I am talking about a dumb breeder not knowing the difference between the two animals.
Let's say some guy who wants to make quick $$ gets a fischers, has never cared for one before. "Hey this looks like a parsons"
Sells it on classifieds to someone who ALSO doesnt know what it is. Gets a "parsons" dirt cheap and then kills the poor fischers.
Could happen
Solid Snake
Avid Member
Ok, lets say its possible, not probable but possible.
Whats your point?
That we need special guidelines for selling species that look somewhat similar?
deadhd5
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Hopefully these two theorhetical people don't theorhetically fall in love and produce a theorhetical child. Because that child would be, theorhetically, an idiot
Olimpia
Biologist & Ecologist
But they DON'T look that much alike. Look up photos of both as full-body shots, the differences are many and huge. You literally couldn't even be blind and confuse the two species, due to the difference in size, skin texture, and physical build. I'll be the first to admit that a couple species look practically identical to me, but these two are not one of those.
Also, I think that if Chris Anderson has seen this thread he is at his desk, weeping quietly.
Also, I think that if Chris Anderson has seen this thread he is at his desk, weeping quietly.
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
I'm going to stop you there if any breeder is experienced enough to breed chameleons they most probably are going to be capable of IDing the difference between Fischers and Parsons chameleons. You are presenting an extremely unlikely situation.
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SSimsswiSS
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I've been on forums long enough to see the so called "expert
chameleon breeders" come and go.
Action Jackson
Chameleon Enthusiast
Hopefully these two theorhetical people don't theorhetically fall in love and produce a theorhetical child. Because that child would be, theorhetically, an idiot
Oops, too late.
Solid Snake
Avid Member
Oops, too late.
Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
I've been on forums long enough to see the so called "expert
Are you saying when you hatch out your Kinyongia and Calumma parsonii you sometime become confused and sell Kinyongia matchiei at Calumma parsonii prices and Calumma parsonii at Kinyongia matchiei prices
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