Think Lily's Poorly!
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summoner12
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Glad to hear she is still with us this morning.
I wonder if she is getting warm enough to proccess her food?
Keep us updated!
Sorry I am not of much help.. i am ready to pass out its 2am here
I wonder if she is getting warm enough to proccess her food?
Keep us updated!
Sorry I am not of much help.. i am ready to pass out its 2am here
Miss Lily
Chameleon Enthusiast
Update - back from the vet
Vet's visit went better than I hoped. We did get to see the reptile vet after all who was very knowledgeable. He said that maybe a lack of D3 has something to do with how she is. Of course, with reptiles it's very hard to diagnose. He gave her 0.05ml of Oxytocin just in case she is retaining an egg or something is going wrong with the next clutch. He injected into her back leg and she got a huge bruise straight away! It's gone now though. As he injected her she turned her head, but still she was sweet and didn't gape, hiss or try to bite.
However, he was doubtful that it could be a retained egg as it's been nearly a month since she laid and the fact that she has been eating and been fine up till now. I will be giving vits WITH D3 again from now on (I changed due to advice from the people I got her from, plus what I've read on here). I am also wondering whether it was an 'off' feeder. I guess through the winter was not a good time to switch to a without D3 vit either. Just hope it's not too late. I only switched in January and gave it once per fortnight.
He suggested that if there's no improvement in a couple of days to go back and have xrays and blood work done. He also thought that she's not too bad as she's still very bright green.
I've increased her basking temp and will keep offering her water and food throughout the day. Fingers crossed that she'll be ok.
Vet's visit went better than I hoped. We did get to see the reptile vet after all who was very knowledgeable. He said that maybe a lack of D3 has something to do with how she is. Of course, with reptiles it's very hard to diagnose. He gave her 0.05ml of Oxytocin just in case she is retaining an egg or something is going wrong with the next clutch. He injected into her back leg and she got a huge bruise straight away! It's gone now though. As he injected her she turned her head, but still she was sweet and didn't gape, hiss or try to bite.
However, he was doubtful that it could be a retained egg as it's been nearly a month since she laid and the fact that she has been eating and been fine up till now. I will be giving vits WITH D3 again from now on (I changed due to advice from the people I got her from, plus what I've read on here). I am also wondering whether it was an 'off' feeder. I guess through the winter was not a good time to switch to a without D3 vit either. Just hope it's not too late. I only switched in January and gave it once per fortnight.
He suggested that if there's no improvement in a couple of days to go back and have xrays and blood work done. He also thought that she's not too bad as she's still very bright green.
I've increased her basking temp and will keep offering her water and food throughout the day. Fingers crossed that she'll be ok.
WelshOneEmma
New Member
Hi Tiff,
That's good news that she is looking less sunken today and still bright green. I do hope she gets better. When it comes to feeding we have now cut Hugo down to 6 crickets/locusts every other day, and he seems fine for it. We also will use Nutrobal twice week and Calcium dust once week (our breeder said to use Nutrobal at every feeding). I am not advising here (before anyone jumps on me), i am just sayinghow we are doing it for Hugo. We had to take him to the vets yesterday (tiniest amount of blood in his poo) and she said he looked healthy and not oversupplemented, so I am wondering if there is less d3/vits in that than there is in the US supplements? May be a thought. Glad she has perked up a bit though, we were all very worried last night.
That's good news that she is looking less sunken today and still bright green. I do hope she gets better. When it comes to feeding we have now cut Hugo down to 6 crickets/locusts every other day, and he seems fine for it. We also will use Nutrobal twice week and Calcium dust once week (our breeder said to use Nutrobal at every feeding). I am not advising here (before anyone jumps on me), i am just sayinghow we are doing it for Hugo. We had to take him to the vets yesterday (tiniest amount of blood in his poo) and she said he looked healthy and not oversupplemented, so I am wondering if there is less d3/vits in that than there is in the US supplements? May be a thought. Glad she has perked up a bit though, we were all very worried last night.
Miss Lily
Chameleon Enthusiast
Thanks for all the good wishes for Lily. She's still the same. Although she is drinking a good few mouth fulls every time I offer her water, which is very frequently (every 10 mins or so). Luckily I don't have to work today so I can keep an eye on her and get her to drink plenty. Still not eaten anything though. I really don't want to lose her - she's very special!
JackAttack
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from my experience with jack, more water the better, higher temps the better. keep misting and offering water from a syringe ( jack used to love this, as i've read lily does too)
so she's been without D3 since january......and how often has she been getting sunlight daily since then? was she on D3 for her whole life prior to this break in Jan? When is she due to lay her eggs next?
I knew it wasnt good with Jack when he started just wanting out of his cage, and laying on my hand
he was always a wanderer, all over the place all the time. you know your cham, and her personality. something strange to you may not be strange to others. heartbreaking to see them like this, have her legs been ok? grip? shaky?
Miss Lily
Chameleon Enthusiast
from my experience with jack, more water the better, higher temps the better. keep misting and offering water from a syringe ( jack used to love this, as i've read lily does too)
so she's been without D3 since january......and how often has she been getting sunlight daily since then? was she on D3 for her whole life prior to this break in Jan? When is she due to lay her eggs next?
I knew it wasnt good with Jack when he started just wanting out of his cage, and laying on my hand
Just looked back over Lily's records and I switched to the Reptivite without D3 in February. Prior to this she had Nutrabol (contains D3) every fortnight since I got her last May. I understand that she had all proper supplements from hatching until I bought her at 6 months. She hasn't been outside in the sun since late last summer (apart from about 20 mins on Sunday), but her UV lighting has been changed every 6 months and is due again now. I thought that they used the UV lighting for the calcium/D3 processes. She still moves around ok and her grip is still quite strong - no shaking at all and she hasn't lost her grip or fallen either. She laid her last clutch on Easter Sunday (12th April). She's not due another clutch yet. I know the signs she shows when she's starting a clutch - usually occuring 3-4 weeks before she lays.
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Miss Lily
Chameleon Enthusiast
Thanks Gary, she's about the same. Eyes still sunken, but at least she's still bright green - lime green almost at times - I reckon she could glow in the dark! She's also been drinking today, but not interested in food. She's now roosting - she went to sleep hugging the stem of her umbrella plant.
johnandlyn
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Hi both i really hope miss lily is getting better its the last thing we want to hear we are so sorry we can help with any advice we just hope she gets better soon and we will be thinking of you both how is she now keep your head up and we are all here for you both thinking of you both john and lyn
Miss Lily
Chameleon Enthusiast
Lily Update (Day 3)
Thanks for asking Jann! Sadly, she's still the same, although her eyes didn't look quite so sunk in first thing this morning. She is still drinking - I offer her water very frequently and she drinks every time, and she is still bright green. Her casque and the tops of her arms are shedding so I'm hoping that this is a good sign too. When I came home from work she was sat at the front and wanted to come out, so I'm hoping that's a good sign as well. She's been with me for a whole year today.
Thanks for asking Jann! Sadly, she's still the same, although her eyes didn't look quite so sunk in first thing this morning. She is still drinking - I offer her water very frequently and she drinks every time, and she is still bright green. Her casque and the tops of her arms are shedding so I'm hoping that this is a good sign too. When I came home from work she was sat at the front and wanted to come out, so I'm hoping that's a good sign as well. She's been with me for a whole year today.
blackbetty
New Member
I want to say that I hope Lily pulls through. You have been so kind to everyone here. She's got a good mum.
And on a slightly humorous thought.. I picture your threads with a British accent..and yet you used "reckon" in this one which threw me into a southern drawl as I read it.. Made me giggle.
Miss Lily
Chameleon Enthusiast
Glad to hear she is still with us this morning.
I wonder if she is getting warm enough to proccess her food?
Keep us updated!
Sorry I am not of much help.. i am ready to pass out its 2am here
Yeah her food is digested. Poop always looks as it should!
