HarleyGirl
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i don't have any silkies or hornworms available right away... i will run out and grab them now....
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If he were mine I'd call the vet back and tell them it's an emergency and beg them to please see him today.
just also for the future...you need a calcium powder with d3....wich you give him every 2 weeks or so...and a regular calcium without d3(wich you give around 3 times a week)...and a multvit wich you give monthly.and of course your regular gutloading vegies/fruits
what's the best quantity of food...i was always told to have about 6 - 10 crickets or worm in his food dish at all times, so that if he want to eat them, he will and if not, then they stay in there for about a day or two or three until he eats them all.It's probably a case of problems with the inner organs. Nothing what a vet can heal.
I first thought that the water supply wasn't good enough, but after I read your last post I'm sure that this is not the problem. Your diet seems to be as well not bad. But I can imagine that quantity of the food was too much.
@Jann: I don't know how many vets are there in the USA but here it's pretty hard to get one who has any knowledge about reptiles and amphibians. And even if she can find one I can't imagine that the vet could do here anything
so is too much calcium ever a bad thing?ok gotcha. well a multyvitamin helps aswell...personaly i dont dust with regular calcium without d3....(thast up for debate aswelll all over)....i gutload with oranges potatoes and apples....but mostly oranges....they have a shiz load of calcium in them...so i have oranges that give cal....a fluker crix gell that gives cal...and the d3 wich gives cal along with the d3....and a mult vit. so therefore hes getting regular calcium from 4 places(oranges.. d3 powde...r multvit wich has cal in it...and calcium cricket gell) and d3 from 2 (uvb and d3 dust)...and i dont feel its nessisary to dust them with cal w/o d3 because ofthe way my gutloading is set up...i dont want to over due it...but to answer your original question ...yes chams can overload on D3...thast why you should only give 2 times a month at the most.( timing per month depends on the Ui/pound...its complicated...but the more d3 Ui/pount there is the less often you need to suplement....the lower the more often you need to suplement....heres an ex...mines 100,000 ui/pound...so i do every 2 weeks...if it was like 5,000-50,000...id do once a week)
The cham wouldn't be 4 years old when there were big problems with the supplementation. The roach is also not the problem.
It could be that the hole process with the vet, bringing him (how long do you need for it ?), the stress during the inspection and the medicaments are the last nails on his' coffin
well then if the vet will stress him even more, what else can i do?
can it just be because he's 4 yrs old? is this an old age?
i always thought he would live to be 5 to 7 yrs old, but maybe that's more common in veiled chams than it is in panthers?
Even water is lethal in a certain dosis. From what I know the chams are able to exude it. Could it be that your cham has any contact with other reptiles (parasites ?)
yeah i agree...internal issue here probrably...im sorry...but...you can always fill that cage again...alwasy rember that....you gave him a good life...just prepare.
i don't know how u guys do it...if i lose him, i would be too hurt to get another...it's sooooo sad when you have to say goodbye. they all have their own personalities...u can never replace them with another