thank you, yes we love Howard. so two days later there was another big white thing and howard looked like his insides were coming out. a prolapsed of some sort. again panicked and ran to internet and was rushing back to get his prolapsed part wet as per instructions and it went back on its own. so now we are waiting for a normal poop to happen. he always poops in the same spot... but i find myself checking on him all day instead of getting things done. he has slowed down on his eating but is a nice fatter look now and a nice color and is all over the cage but every morning under the heat lamp... i guess we will take it one day at a time, no one seemed to recognize that long slimy white thing and i couldn't find anything on line that it might be some sort of giant parasite.... anyway thank you for responding...