Not sure if my baby veiled chameleon is boy or girl

MystiqueCham

MystiqueCham

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I have had my baby for 5 days and I am wondering if I have a male or female! And also, The place I got it from said it was eaten about two crickets every other day and I've only seen to eat two crickets since I had it. I am so nervous I'm doing something wrong
 

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MystiqueCham said:
I have had my baby for 5 days and I am wondering if I have a male or female! And also, The place I got it from said it was eaten about two crickets every other day and I've only seen to eat two crickets since I had it. I am so nervous I'm doing something wrong
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Hi there. Ok so from those angles it looks like a little female. But to know for sure I need a side view and as close as you can get like these... A male veiled will have a tarsal spur like in the pictures and a female will not.

For the enclosure and set up this is going to be a learning curve so I want to start you out by going here and reading everything in this husbandry program. It will allow us to assist you better because you will have a base of knowledge. https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/

You will have quite a few changes that need to be made quickly such as UVB lighting needs to be switched to a T5HO linear fixture with a 5.0 or 6% uvb bulb. The compact screw in bulb your using will not work for a chameleon as it does not provide the levels of UVB the cham needs.

Also feeding a baby this young would be taking down a minimum of 2 dozen small feeders a day. So your wanting crickets that are no larger than 1/4 of an inch.

Once you read through the husbandry program let me know and I will post a husbandry review form for you. This way we can review every aspect including supplements. :)
 

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Hi there. Ok so from those angles it looks like a little female. But to know for sure I need a side view and as close as you can get like these... A male will have a tarsal spur like in the pictures and a female will not.

For the enclosure and set up this is going to be a learning curve so I want to start you out by going here and reading everything in this husbandry program. It will allow us to assist you better because you will have a base of knowledge. https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/

You will have quite a few changes that need to be made quickly such as UVB lighting needs to be switched to a T5HO linear fixture with a 5.0 or 6% uvb bulb. The compact screw in bulb your using will not work for a chameleon as it does not provide the levels of UVB the cham needs.

Also feeding a baby this young would be taking down a minimum of 2 dozen small feeders a day. So your wanting crickets that are no larger than 1/4 of an inch.

Once you read through the husbandry program let me know and I will post a husbandry review form for you. This way we can review every aspect including supplements. :)
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Okay, thank you so much for your time and information! I will get to reading. Oh and the place I got her from said she was taking medium crickets now. I'll post another pic on my hand so you can see the size better..
 
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Okay, thank you so much for your time and information! I will get to reading. Oh and the place I got her from said she was taking medium crickets now. I'll post another pic on my hand so you can see the size better..
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Beman said:
Hi there. Ok so from those angles it looks like a little female. But to know for sure I need a side view and as close as you can get like these... A male will have a tarsal spur like in the pictures and a female will not.

For the enclosure and set up this is going to be a learning curve so I want to start you out by going here and reading everything in this husbandry program. It will allow us to assist you better because you will have a base of knowledge. https://chameleonacademy.com/chameleon-husbandry-program-getting-started-with-chameleons/

You will have quite a few changes that need to be made quickly such as UVB lighting needs to be switched to a T5HO linear fixture with a 5.0 or 6% uvb bulb. The compact screw in bulb your using will not work for a chameleon as it does not provide the levels of UVB the cham needs.

Also feeding a baby this young would be taking down a minimum of 2 dozen small feeders a day. So your wanting crickets that are no larger than 1/4 of an inch.

Once you read through the husbandry program let me know and I will post a husbandry review form for you. This way we can review every aspect including supplements. :)
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MystiqueCham said:
Okay, thank you so much for your time and information! I will get to reading. Oh and the place I got her from said she was taking medium crickets now. I'll post another pic on my hand so you can see the size better..
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She is quite small so I would stay with the small 1/4 inch size. These are easier for them to take down and they will not back off of eating due to the size of the feeder.


And now that I am looking at her whole body... That is not a veiled chameleon. This is what a 2 month old veiled chameleon will look like. https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/my-babies-are-two-months-old.190698/
See the casque on its head... yours does not have one so it is a different species.
 
Beman said:
She is quite small so I would stay with the small 1/4 inch size. These are easier for them to take down and they will not back off of eating due to the size of the feeder.


And now that I am looking at her whole body... That is not a veiled chameleon. This is what a 2 month old veiled chameleon will look like. https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/my-babies-are-two-months-old.190698/
See the casque on its head... yours does not have one so it is a different species.
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Hummm, okay. I have a phone call to make right quick!! 😭
 
MystiqueCham said:
Hummm, okay. I have a phone call to make right quick!! 😭
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They very much got the species wrong on this one. And I am not well versed in all the other species... Looks a lot like a common chameleon or a flap neck. But that is just me guessing. Telling gender on this one would be different as well.
 
Beman said:
Thank you Michael. Would you happen to know any sources of correct husbandry info for this one? Such as supplementation and UVB/temps?
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I have not personally kept them, but I have worked with and talked extensively with several individuals who have. They can be kept like panther chameleons, but go towards the lower range of acceptable temperatures and offer water a bit more frequently. This appears to be a female, but the sexes are not very distinct from one another for senegalensis. There might be more growing to do as well, hard to tell from the picture. Treat as a female for now and post in a month or two to see if a more prominent hemipenal bulge has appeared (although unlikely).

Basic chameleon husbandry stuff will still apply, like using a linear UVB bulb instead of the current dome coil bulb. This is a wild caught animal as well so may need a vet checkup/fecal float for parasites if things start to go downhill.
 
javadi said:
I have not personally kept them, but I have worked with and talked extensively with several individuals who have. They can be kept like panther chameleons, but go towards the lower range of acceptable temperatures and offer water a bit more frequently. This appears to be a female, but the sexes are not very distinct from one another for senegalensis. There might be more growing to do as well, hard to tell from the picture. Treat as a female for now and post in a month or two to see if a more prominent hemipenal bulge has appeared (although unlikely).

Basic chameleon husbandry stuff will still apply, like using a linear UVB bulb instead of the current dome coil bulb. This is a wild caught animal as well so may need a vet checkup/fecal float for parasites if things start to go downhill.
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Thank you for the info
javadi said:
I have not personally kept them, but I have worked with and talked extensively with several individuals who have. They can be kept like panther chameleons, but go towards the lower range of acceptable temperatures and offer water a bit more frequently. This appears to be a female, but the sexes are not very distinct from one another for senegalensis. There might be more growing to do as well, hard to tell from the picture. Treat as a female for now and post in a month or two to see if a more prominent hemipenal bulge has appeared (although unlikely).

Basic chameleon husbandry stuff will still apply, like using a linear UVB bulb instead of the current dome coil bulb. This is a wild caught animal as well so may need a vet checkup/fecal float for parasites if things start to go downhill.
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Thank you for the info. She was purchased at a pet store and said that they received from a breeder.
 
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Thank you for the info

Thank you for the info. She was purchased at a pet store and said that they received from a breeder.
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No problem :) hope it helps!
They are 100% lying if they claim this is a captive bred animal. There have been no documented captive breedings of this species in many years. Even if there were, the offspring would not likely be found at a pet store.
 
javadi said:
No problem :) hope it helps!
They are 100% lying if they claim this is a captive bred animal. There have been no documented captive breedings of this species in many years. Even if there were, the offspring would not likely be found at a pet store.
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Oh wow. Well I know they are liars because they sold it to me letting me believe it was a veiled chameleon.
 
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