My Xeno poor baby is sick here is an ok photo
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Julirs
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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.
Cage Info:
Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
Location - Where are you geographically located?
Chameron
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I've done that, gone to vet, gone to breeders, he is hanging in there. He eats great, drinks very well, is active. But he won't open his eyes. When I went to the vet with all the info they gave me some evil eye ointment and it made his eyes shut. They said it was an eye infection and it was antibioticointment. He is fine can do everything but open his eyes his grip is coming back nicely.
Chameron
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Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? Male Veiled about 3ish months. In my care for over one month less than two
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? every day I hand feed because of the eye issue
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? Crickets What amount? 3 in the morning, 3-4 or 5 in the middle of the after noon (about 4:30pm) and 3 ish at night b4 bed. How are you gut-loading your feeders? with fluckers gutload
Supplements - t rex reptical every 3 days?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? Spray bottle and little dripper. 5-to 10 min 3 to 4 times a day Do you see your chameleon drinking? yes
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? not tested looks healthy brown poo white urate
History - Petno..
Cage Info:
Cage Type - screen, 16x16x30?
Lighting - reptisun 5.0 compact flourescent and a halogin(sp?) 75 watt I think it is zoo med i will check when i get home. lights on at 7am and off at 930pm
Temperature - 65 at the bottom and highest basking point is 85-87. Night time where he normally sleeps is about 70. I measure these with both digital and anolog thermometers.
Humidity - 40ish-80ish. spraying and drippers. hydrometer.
Plants - Are you using live plants? yes. pothos, schfrella(sp?) and small jade plant.
Placement - Where is your cage located? In my den its a generally warm room (warmest in the house) Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? fan across the room for ventalation low traffic. At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? its a little more than for feet off the ground
Location - NH, US
Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care? Male Veiled about 3ish months. In my care for over one month less than two
Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon? every day I hand feed because of the eye issue
Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? Crickets What amount? 3 in the morning, 3-4 or 5 in the middle of the after noon (about 4:30pm) and 3 ish at night b4 bed. How are you gut-loading your feeders? with fluckers gutload
Supplements - t rex reptical every 3 days?
Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? Spray bottle and little dripper. 5-to 10 min 3 to 4 times a day Do you see your chameleon drinking? yes
Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? not tested looks healthy brown poo white urate
History - Petno..
Cage Info:
Cage Type - screen, 16x16x30?
Lighting - reptisun 5.0 compact flourescent and a halogin(sp?) 75 watt I think it is zoo med i will check when i get home. lights on at 7am and off at 930pm
Temperature - 65 at the bottom and highest basking point is 85-87. Night time where he normally sleeps is about 70. I measure these with both digital and anolog thermometers.
Humidity - 40ish-80ish. spraying and drippers. hydrometer.
Plants - Are you using live plants? yes. pothos, schfrella(sp?) and small jade plant.
Placement - Where is your cage located? In my den its a generally warm room (warmest in the house) Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? fan across the room for ventalation low traffic. At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor? its a little more than for feet off the ground
Location - NH, US
Chameron
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he has had the eye issue B4 and ive tried with out that light and it hadnt gotten better or worse plus my breeder friend uses them and nothing has ever happened to his chams. I do agree I need to do more supliment research I saw a thread floating around here about it thanks for your help juli I will try the light thing again I guess
Julirs
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There are supposedly some safer compacts out there, but I don't think Zoomed is in the clear just yet. Your guy is a baby so the effects are far worse from those lights-so just because your breeder friend uses them does not make them OK. I would get a linear tube UVB-he won't heal over night-so give him some time, as in week+ to open his eyes. He may also have permanent damage.
Ryan Jarosek
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Your breeder friends may have been lucky and got the good bulbs. They are nearly impossible to tell the difference.
Ryan Jarosek
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I agree with Juli . It can take up to 3 weeks depending on how bad the damage is.
One thing for sure if you continue the use of the bulb "if its bad" you will do permanent damage and it will not be reversible.
kpritch17
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How long before the lights go out are you feeding him for the 3rd time? They need about 2 hours after with the lights on so that they can be warm enough to digest what they just ate before going to sleep.
Also, your lights may be on for a bit too long. The recommended time is 12-14 hours per day with 12 hours being the most common.
I don't know if these would have anything to do with Xeno's eye problems. Let us know what happens!
Also, your lights may be on for a bit too long. The recommended time is 12-14 hours per day with 12 hours being the most common.
I don't know if these would have anything to do with Xeno's eye problems. Let us know what happens!
Elizadolots
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I was about to comment on the animal only getting 9 1/2 hours without the light. I think this is one of those confusing things that starts badly at the store. We were told "turn it on when you get up, turn it off when you go to bed"....It's a lengthy learning process because so many times you get told something by someone who should know, but it turns out to be wrong.
Julirs
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If you hav enot heard anything-you have not been on this forum long. It comes up almost daily. As recently stated, some manufacturers are putting out new product that is supposed to be safer, but it is often difficult to tell which ones are OK and which ones are not. Bottom line-there IS proof that these bulbs have caused blindness, eye issues, and death.
beeze
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I've seen it on here plenty of times. Turn off that coil bulb and get a Reptisun 5.0 tube style bulb. http://lllreptile.com/store/catalog...por-bulbs/-/zoo-med-24-repti-sun-50-uvb-bulb/
