made up are mind just a little more info please


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ok think we have viv figured out lighting temps and food oh ya and type of cham we are going for we are going to be first time slaves to a cham and have done much research on them the only two questions i have is what are happy colors verses sad or sick colors and where would the best place to get a healthy little guy from and yes i mean a male dont want a girl for first time just seems like to much can go wrong with the egg laying and what not
well all the sponsors on here are great and well trusted

what cham did you decide? panther? veiled? other?

if its a panther...i can only speak from my experience from the Kammers, great people, great chams

but i also like and will hopefully do more purchases from the future

tiki tiki reptiles
chameleon company
amazing blue reptiles
chameleons 101
and others etc.

and also check local breeders here on the forums...they are great as well

iver heard nothing but awsome experiences from Lancecham for his panthers , usually ambilobes:)
It might help if you told us where you are. Then people could offer up people in your area who breed but are not "stores" or companies.

Lacking that, Ace has made great suggestions.

You seem intent on doing things the right way, which makes me very happy.
sorry been a bit since checked this post but now have the cash to add a baby to are family we live in oregon and are looking for a male veiled cham since all my research says they are great for a first time cham owner like i said before we have five bearded dragons we know how important the right lighting temps ect. are for all are herp friends but dont want to buy from petco or petsmart all they do is fill you full of bs so looking for a local or semi local breeder who cares about are friends any info would be taken to heart thanks
Welcome to the world of chameleons!

Here's some information that might help to get you started.......
Exposure to proper UVB, appropriate temperatures, supplements, a supply of well-fed/gutloaded insects, water and an appropriate cage set-up are all important for the well-being of your chameleon.

Appropriate cage temperatures aid in digestion and thus play a part indirectly in nutrient absorption.

Exposure to UVB from either direct sunlight or a proper UVB light allows the chameleon to produce D3 so that it can use the calcium in its system to make/keep the bones strong and be used in other systems in the chameleon as well. The UVB should not pass through glass or plastic no matter whether its from the sun or the UVB light. The most often recommended UVB light is the long linear fluorescent Repti-sun 5.0 tube light. Some of the compacts, spirals and tube lights have caused health issues, but so far there have been no bad reports against this one.

Since many of the feeder insects have a poor ratio of calcium to phosphorus in them, its important to dust the insects just before you feed them to the chameleon at most feedings with a phos.-free calcium powder to help make up for it. (I use Rep-cal phosphorus-free calcium).

If you also dust twice a month with a phos.-free calcium/D3 powder it will ensure that your chameleon gets some D3 without overdoing it. It leaves the chameleon to produce the rest of what it needs through its exposure to the UVB light. D3 from supplements can build up in the system but D3 produced from exposure to UVB shouldn't as long as the chameleon can move in and out of it. (I use Rep-cal phos.-free calcium/D3).

Dusting twice a month as well with a vitamin powder that contains a beta carotene (prOformed) source of vitamin A will ensure that the chameleon gets some vitamins without the danger of overdosing the vitamin A. PrEformed sources of vitamin A can build up in the system and may prevent the D3 from doing its job and push the chameleon towards MBD. However, there is controversy as to whether all/any chameleons can convert the beta carotene and so some people give some prEformed vitamin A once in a while. (I use herptivite.)

Gutloading/feeding the insects well helps to provide what the chameleon needs. I gutload crickets, roaches, locusts, superworms, etc. with an assortment of greens (dandelions, kale, collards, endive, escarole, mustard greens, etc.) and veggies (carrots, squash, sweet potato, sweet red pepper, zucchini, etc.)

Calcium, phos., D3 and vitamin A are important players in bone health and other systems in the chameleon (muscles, etc.) and they need to be in balance. When trying to balance them, you need to look at the supplements, what you feed the insects and what you feed the chameleon.

Here are some good sites for you to read...
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