how many phoenix worms should I feed?

[kwmc]

Hello,

I got the medium size phoenix worms but I have no idea how much I should feed my 3.5 months old veiled cham.

On the other hand, are those substrates (come with the package) eatable? Do I have to "clean" the phoenix worm before feeding my cham?

Thank you in advance.

 

[camimom]

Hello,

I got the medium size phoenix worms but I have no idea how much I should feed my 3.5 months old veiled cham.

On the other hand, are those substrates (come with the package) eatable? Do I have to "clean" the phoenix worm before I give it to my cham?

Thank you in advance.

he can eat them daily. i usually feed off about 3-6 plus crickets.
and idont clean my worms off and have no problems.
(and you dont need to dust these)

 

[lindawaz]

I may very well be WRONG but I think they are in a bran mix which is harmless. What ever it is it won't hurt them

 

[Graanto]

I too just got phoenix worms. I thought the bran stuff was food for the worms. i also beileve that they can live in that cup they come in for a few weeks. Correct me if im wrong.

 

[kwmc]

Thank you for your quick response camimom. I just fed my cham 4 and he loved them!!!

I have crickets as staple food. 1 Silkworm per day, 1-2 horned worm per week. And now I have phoenix worm (it's hard to get in Canada). I think Kiwi (my cham) should be satisfied now.

PS Oh, two more replies while I was typing. Thank you guys.

 

[camimom]

I too just got phoenix worms. I thought the bran stuff was food for the worms. i also beileve that they can live in that cup they come in for a few weeks. Correct me if im wrong.

They can.
I dont do anything with mine.
I let them sit there till i need to feed them off.
Just be wary, if you let them sit for too long, they will pupate and turn into soldier flies
Which i do on purpose someitmes, cuz the flying gets the boys interested.
but i didnt know that at first, and the first time i got them, and i let them sit, i open the lid, and 3 flies flew out. nearly gave me a heart attack!

 

[camimom]

Thank you for your quick response camimom. I just fed my cham 4 and he loved them!!!

I have crickets as staple food. 1 Silkworm per day, 1-2 horned worm per week. And now I have phoenix worm (it's hard to get in Canada). I think Kiwi (my cham) should be satisfied now.

PS Oh, two more replies while I was typing. Thank you guys.

crickets, silks and pheonix, are great foods.
be careful with the horns, they grow super super fast!

 

[kwmc]

Thanks for the advance. Horned worm is the treat to Kiwi.

I fed horned worm with dandelion leaf and collard green to keep it alive.

 

[camimom]

Thanks for the advance. Horned worm is the treat to Kiwi.

I fed horned worm with dandelion leaf and collard green to keep it alive.

I just feed silkworm chow I bought and made from mulberry farms.
And my guys love the hornworms.

 

[raphael14]

I just feed silkworm chow I bought and made from mulberry farms.
And my guys love the hornworms.

Are wax worms the same as phoenix worms? I'm confused they look alike

 

[camimom]

Are wax worms the same as phoenix worms? I'm confused they look alike

No.
Waxworms are more fatty.
they are good for when you need to put some weight on a cham, but no extremely nutritious..
think- junk food for waxworms and veggies for pheonix.

but they can be fed off. i do about 1-2 worms per cham about once or twice every other week.

 

[raphael14]

thank you i feed mine wax worm may 1 or 2 every other week

 

[camimom]

thank you i feed mine wax worm may 1 or 2 every other week

sounds perfect then.

 

[Chameleon Loco]

Worms

The bran in the phoenix worm container is just a substrate I dont believe they eat it, this is the same with wax worms as unless you have a honey bee colonly as they eat the honey from the colonly. Phoenix worms are the lavae of the black soldier fly and have amazing amounts of calcium in them. I never really used them as they are two small for some of my animals

 

[kwmc]

The bran in the phoenix worm container is just a substrate I dont believe they eat it, this is the same with wax worms as unless you have a honey bee colonly as they eat the honey from the colonly. Phoenix worms are the lavae of the black soldier fly and have amazing amounts of calcium in them. I never really used them as they are two small for some of my animals

I agree phoenix worm is a bit small in size. I have put them on feeding dish but they are rich in calcium.

 

[SonTigerPantherCham]

I put 4 to 6 together in a dish prior to feeding, alot of the bran falls off. Then I put all of them in my palm and my chams will grab all of them at once, then its like a bigger size

 

[JonRich]

i pick out however many im going to feed. I put them in a cup with a few grains of raw rice. shake shake shake and all the substrait falls off then i pick the worms out with a chopstick. (the substrait looks like moist saw-dust)

 

[kwmc]

i pick out however many im going to feed. I put them in a cup with a few grains of raw rice. shake shake shake and all the substrait falls off then i pick the worms out with a chopstick. (the substrait looks like moist saw-dust)

Thank you. Will give this a try tomorrow.

 

[pssh]

Any sawdust needs to be removed. Bran is okay. In fact, if you moisten in, they will eat it and grow.

 

[camothe]

Are wax worms the same as phoenix worms? I'm confused they look alike

Waxworms are way more fatty and should only be a treat about every other week.