Gutloading diet?

Z33

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Has anyone tried Mazuri Better Bug Gutloading Diet on their feeder insects? I'm wondering if I should give this to my incoming silkworms I ordered and my other feeders. Silkworms eat mulberry leaves, beetroot leaves (which I dont have) and otherwise no greens. Idk if those are good nutrition for chams? I could definetly feed my silkworms carrots with leaves too. I heard the worms turn orange too, don't know if that's a good thing or not for my cham but could use some advice. My cham is very picky and will only occasionally eat 1 or 2 crickets or roaches so I'm hardly buyin those and want to switch over to silkworms.
 

Kaizen

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Has anyone tried Mazuri Better Bug Gutloading Diet on their feeder insects? I'm wondering if I should give this to my incoming silkworms I ordered and my other feeders. Silkworms eat mulberry leaves, beetroot leaves (which I dont have) and otherwise no greens. Idk if those are good nutrition for chams? I could definetly feed my silkworms carrots with leaves too. I heard the worms turn orange too, don't know if that's a good thing or not for my cham but could use some advice. My cham is very picky and will only occasionally eat 1 or 2 crickets or roaches so I'm hardly buyin those and want to switch over to silkworms.
As far as I know, silks need mulberry leaves (or the chow derived therefrom), and while they might eat other things, they can’t survive on anything but mulberry. Fortunately, mulberry leaves end up being very nutritious, and therefore great as a bug food. I use mulberry leaves/powder in my gutload for all my bugs. So, feed your silks silkworm chow or fresh mulberry leaves, and incorporate them into your line up of Cham food.
 

Hsandovaljr

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I feed this to my feeders. My Cham has grown so much since I been feeding this to my feeders.
 

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Kaizen

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@Kaizen Thanks! Good to know! Where do you get your supply of silkworm chow or mulberry leaves?
Alas, I’m in Canada, and the chow is hard to find. However, from April to October, mulberry leaves are in abundance. And FYI: white mulberry is almost a weed—if you live anywhere from northern Florida to South Dakota, you can find them growing in between fences, in ditches and everywhere else. But im sure others will chime in with multiple links to order the chow.
 
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Kaizen

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Further to my last,

Yiu started your post asking about mazuri. I have no experience with this product, but if memory serves @ferretinmyshoes uses it, and will be able to advise.
 
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Z33

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@Hsandovaljr Wow! Never heard of that before! Will definetly be checking that out! How long have you been feeding your feeders and cham that for? And your worms take to the food too?
 
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Z33

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@Kaizen Thanks so much! Well enjoy those mulberry leaves in abundance! I look forward to hearing from said advisor!
 

Hsandovaljr

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The first pic is of him September 17 and the last 3 photos are of him yesterday.
 

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AnamCara

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Google "silkworm chow". Lots of places sell it, though I've found some places have a different suggested method of preparing it. I do 2:1 water to chow, mix with a fork until combined and put it in the microwave for about 20 seconds (depending on how much you're making) and then put it in the fridge to cool down.

I'm not sure how necessary the microwave part is, but it doesn seem to harden in a bit and make it more manageable as far as cleaning silkworm poop out of the container.
 

Gryllidae Per Kcal

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Has anyone tried Mazuri Better Bug Gutloading Diet on their feeder insects? I'm wondering if I should give this to my incoming silkworms I ordered and my other feeders. Silkworms eat mulberry leaves, beetroot leaves (which I dont have) and otherwise no greens. Idk if those are good nutrition for chams? I could definetly feed my silkworms carrots with leaves too. I heard the worms turn orange too, don't know if that's a good thing or not for my cham but could use some advice. My cham is very picky and will only occasionally eat 1 or 2 crickets or roaches so I'm hardly buyin those and want to switch over to silkworms.
I use Mazuri Better Bug for my crickets and superworms. They’re proven to improve the calcium to phosphorus ratio in them but known to kill mealworms quicker. Only use this for 48 hours before giving them to your chameleon, the high amount of calcium kills them within a few more days otherwise and the calcium levels drop.
 

Gryllidae Per Kcal

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https://nagonline.net/wp-content/up...luation-for-crickets-mealworms-superworms.pdf

There was another study where Mazuri performed better than Repashy Superload in increasing nutrients in medium sized crickets.

https://www.proquest.com/openview/0...pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y#page=58
Jaimee Alsing is the one who created this sheet that shows the results.

This shows the nutritional composition of the gut loading diets used
https://www.iastatedigitalpress.com/air/article/7048/galley/6912/download/
 

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