thanks!! yeah, there are alot of people giving wrong advice promoting stuff thats wrong, or dies very quickly, without the newbie knowing any different... and the end result is always the same.....I do what I do and make what I make because I've tried everything...I know what works...thats why there are not a whole lot of veterans on here, because the usual are know it alls... I've asked the veterans why they don't post or visit on these sites....and thats the answer they gave me.....