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Omg! Poor baby. Looks like mbd with fractures! Vet asap. I read a thread on this site where a vet assistant rehab one and use straws as splints. Try and find that tread here and read others as much as you can to get knowledable fast so you can save her also post where you are at so hopefully you can get a great vet near you. Time is of the essence because your little one is Probably suffering. sending prayers your wayView attachment 308674View attachment 308675View attachment 308676based on these images, can you tell if my piebald veiled chameleon has MBD?
Yea it really looks like mbd he/her has swollen and bowed legs u need a vet ASAPView attachment 308674View attachment 308675View attachment 308676based on these images, can you tell if my piebald veiled chameleon has MBD?
Chameleon Info:Yes, he does. And it is a rather extreme case.... You need a reptile vet and you should do a husbandry review to correct the aspects causing it before it worsens and causes deformity in other parts of his body. Fill out the form below (copy paste into your reply) with details include pictures of the entire enclosure including the lighting on top.
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As @Beman said..."Yes, he does. And it is a rather extreme case.... You need a reptile vet and you should do a husbandry review to correct the aspects causing it before it worsens and causes deformity in other parts of his body."...I agree with this.
To correct it, you do need a vet IMHO... And your chameleon needs proper UVB, proper supplements, well fed insects, appropriate temperatures and in addition, will need a liquid calcium until the bones, muscles and other systems in your chameleon are strong again. The damage that's already done will likely remain...and I would keep her in a hospital type cage until she is stronger so she won't fall and break more bones. A hospital cage is just a lower cage with less things to climb on...but you need to be careful with the lighting so you don't burn her or overheat her or overdo the UVB because she may have difficulty moving around until the MBD is fixed.
Once it's fixed you will be able to drop he liquid calcium and continue with proper husbandry to stop it from returning.
Just wondering but how much should a trip to the vet cost me? I'm sort of low on cash. Where could I get liquid calcium?Welcome to the forum!
As @Beman said..."Yes, he does. And it is a rather extreme case.... You need a reptile vet and you should do a husbandry review to correct the aspects causing it before it worsens and causes deformity in other parts of his body."...I agree with this.
To correct it, you do need a vet IMHO... And your chameleon needs proper UVB, proper supplements, well fed insects, appropriate temperatures and in addition, will need a liquid calcium until the bones, muscles and other systems in your chameleon are strong again. The damage that's already done will likely remain...and I would keep her in a hospital type cage until she is stronger so she won't fall and break more bones. A hospital cage is just a lower cage with less things to climb on...but you need to be careful with the lighting so you don't burn her or overheat her or overdo the UVB because she may have difficulty moving around until the MBD is fixed.
Once it's fixed you will be able to drop he liquid calcium and continue with proper husbandry to stop it from returning.
Can't tell you...I live in Canada.Just wondering but how much should a trip to the vet cost me? I'm sort of low on cash. Where could I get liquid calcium?
Sadly like Erklerose said he cages is completely wrong I understand this probably wasn’t ur fault due to incorrect information given but a vet is definitely needed ASAP he is in serious condition I would read all the links everyone has sent u and watch Neptune the chameleon on YouTubeChameleon Info:
- Your Chameleon - I've had this piebald veiled chameleon for about 2 months and he was 3 months old when I got him so he's 5 months old.
- Handling - I used to handle him 3 times a week for about 15 to 20 minutes but recently over the past 2 weeks I can tell he does not want to be handled.
- Feeding - I'm feeding my cham 10 crickets in the morning and 10 at night. I put calcium with vitamin d3 on the crickets once a week. I'm using Flukers orange cube complete cricket diet for the crickets.
- Watering - I use a mist sprayer and I spray it over the top about 3-4 times a day. I see him drinking all the time.
- Fecal Description -My cham has never been tested for parasites. His poop is brown and his pee is white.
- History - When I first got him he was a tiny little guy with skinny little arms. His arms looked like toothpicks but they looked normal compared to other chameleons. A few weeks ago, I started noticing some changes in his behavior. It appears as if he isn't climbing as well, although he still does it. He also doesn't like to be handled at all anymore. If I stick my hand in his terrarium, he opens his mouth wide and hisses at me most of the time. The one good thing I've noticed is that he's starting to get some beautiful colors. If this is Metabolic Bone Disease, I'd really like to know what I can do to fix this problem. I wasn't expecting this at all and I understand it will probably be an expensive fix.
Cage Info:
- Cage Type - Glass 10 gallon cage. It has a wire roof so he can climb
- Lighting - My daily lighting schedule is 60w daylight blue UVA light around 9 am, then 50w night heat lamp around midnight.
- Temperature - I do not measure the temperature
- Humidity - I do not measure humitidy, I just mist his cage when I think it looks dry.
- Plants - I was using a live plant but it died. Other than that I have 5 fake plants.
- Placement - The top of his cage is about 4 1/2 feet above the floor. There is no fans blowing into the cage. My room is normally pretty warm
- Location - San Antonio, Tx
Current Problem - Metabolic bone disease
Does anybody know what I should do if the vet is closed? All of the vets near me are closed for the weekend. Is there anything I can do to keep him alive or make him feel better? I bought liquid calcium and a new UVB light. Any suggestions?Sadly like Erklerose said he cages is completely wrong I understand this probably wasn’t ur fault due to incorrect information given but a vet is definitely needed ASAP he is in serious condition I would read all the links everyone has sent u and watch Neptune the chameleon on YouTube
Your going to start here hun... read through everything I gave you in this post https://www.chameleonforums.com/thr...ve-metabolic-bone-disease.184091/post-1687747Does anybody know what I should do if the vet is closed? All of the vets near me are closed for the weekend. Is there anything I can do to keep him alive or make him feel better? I bought liquid calcium and a new UVB light. Any suggestions?
Since the vet is closed go through the info Beman gave uDoes anybody know what I should do if the vet is closed? All of the vets near me are closed for the weekend. Is there anything I can do to keep him alive or make him feel better? I bought liquid calcium and a new UVB light. Any suggestions?