Cham can’t hold himself up

Kennethp7

New Member
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My Cham can’t hold himself up I’m freaking out just 2 days ago he was fine I tried to feed him but he fell and since hasn’t been the same please help
 

CamoChameleonsHuman

Chameleon Enthusiast
As @janjan20 posted please fill out the form below. Also please try not to make duplicate threads. Gets confusing.

Hi, welcome to the forum! The best way to get the answers you need is to fill out this form. Just copy and paste it. If you have pictures of the enclosure and leg that would help out. And you are on the right track with the vet visit :)
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

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Please Note:
  1. The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.
  2. Photos can be very helpful.
 

Rlc1994

Chameleon Enthusiast
Hopefully the vet can give the proper advice and you can save him. There are some stories on here of full recoveries from MBD it’s a long road to recovery but stay positive if you listen to the advice from experienced members they can get you on the right track. Right now I’d advise filling out the husbandry form too see if there is any problems there so this doesn’t occur again. Hope everything turns out okay for you and your chameleon.
 

Kennethp7

New Member
As @janjan20 posted please fill out the form below. Also please try not to make duplicate threads. Gets confusing.

Hi, welcome to the forum! The best way to get the answers you need is to fill out this form. Just copy and paste it. If you have pictures of the enclosure and leg that would help out. And you are on the right track with the vet visit :)
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?
  • Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?
  • Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?
  • Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?
  • Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?
  • Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?
  • History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?
  • Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?
  • Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?
  • Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?
  • Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?
  • Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?
  • Location - Where are you geographically located?

Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.

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Please Note:
  1. The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.
  2. Photos can be very helpful.
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Veiled Cham male 2to3months been in my care for 2to 3 months feeding him daily up to 5 crickets a day no schedule I just let him eat them I gut load carrots and orange I can’t remember the calcium but I dust 2 times a week I use a mist and lil dripper poop has been consistency, and not watery I use a uvb 5.0 and 70w light temp ofcage is 75 humidity I haven’t checked enough tbh use artificial plants my cage is located on my floor
 

Kennethp7

New Member
Hopefully the vet can give the proper advice and you can save him. There are some stories on here of full recoveries from MBD it’s a long road to recovery but stay positive if you listen to the advice from experienced members they can get you on the right track. Right now I’d advise filling out the husbandry form too see if there is any problems there so this doesn’t occur again. Hope everything turns out okay for you and your chameleon.
There taking X-ray and giving me pain medicine for him if y’all don’t mind I’d like to post my X-ray and if you can tell me there’s a chance I really wanna try the best I can
 

Kennethp7

New Member
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There taking X-ray and giving me pain medicine for him if y’all don’t mind I’d like to post my X-ray and if you can tell me there’s a chance I really wanna try the best I can
i really care about the little guy and want to try my best to help him out, but if the X-ray are bad please be truthful with me if there isn’t a chance I just want him normal again
 

CamoChameleonsHuman

Chameleon Enthusiast
You can post the xray if you'd like but we don't need to see it to know what's wrong. He/she has MBD. METABOLIC BONE DISEASE. It was 100% preventable. Chameleons and other reptiles don't just contract MBD. They get it from improper lighting and improper supplementing of calcium and vitamins. I'm sorry to tell you but you are the reason for the chameleon being in this condition. Do to your improper husbandry that is. I'm sure you didn't directly try to cause this but indirectly you did. Unfortunately MBD can't be reversed but it can be treated. However I am not specialized nor have I ever cared for an animal with MBD. Why? Because I follow the strict guidelines and needs chameleons need. Hopefully others can chime in with how to better care for him. I'm sorry if this came off very blunt or mean but I've seen too many veiled chameleons in this condition to just not say anything. Given that they don't have a voice to speak for themselves.
 
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