Camiezone babies from Homer and Big Girl

elizaann2 said:
That’s actually my biggest worry as well. Will they go to loving homes? Will they be taken care of the way I would care for them? Will I just end up with 100 chameleons??
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That's my problem. I will definitely end up with 100 chameleons.

No two ways about it. I don't think I could ever breed. I'll just buy my chameleons and make sure I never give myself a chance at this because I'll be sleeping with Chameleons lmao
 
You are all correct in your thoughts. 1 it is nerve wreaking, 2 it is worrisome, 3 it is expensive, 4 it is stressful. But but but, 1 it is indescribably amazing, 2 it is expensive, 3 it is stressful 4, it is so peaceful to just sit and admire all these little miracles. They are so incredible.
Just think, they get laid inside an egg, buried in hole with 20-30 eggs all in big cluster, then hole completely covered. 9ish months later, those little tiny fragile babies, yet to take first breath or to see, have to figure out how to break the egg, which is little leather feeling egg the size of peanut mms, escape the egg, then figure out which way is up n down, begin digging, get past all the other eggs, thru the dirt, reach ground level, and take huge breath, open eyes and then immediately run up nearest safe tree before a bird or other predator eats it. That's just insane.
No help from mom or anyone else, it blows my mind.
 
Camiezone said:
You are all correct in your thoughts. 1 it is nerve wreaking, 2 it is worrisome, 3 it is expensive, 4 it is stressful. But but but, 1 it is indescribably amazing, 2 it is expensive, 3 it is stressful 4, it is so peaceful to just sit and admire all these little miracles. They are so incredible.
Just think, they get laid inside an egg, buried in hole with 20-30 eggs all in big cluster, then hole completely covered. 9ish months later, those little tiny fragile babies, yet to take first breath or to see, have to figure out how to break the egg, which is little leather feeling egg the size of peanut mms, escape the egg, then figure out which way is up n down, begin digging, get past all the other eggs, thru the dirt, reach ground level, and take huge breath, open eyes and then immediately run up nearest safe tree before a bird or other predator eats it. That's just insane.
No help from mom or anyone else, it blows my mind.
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I always wonder what it would be like for them to dig themselves out of the hole they are in. What amazing creatures.
 
Camiezone said:
You are all correct in your thoughts. 1 it is nerve wreaking, 2 it is worrisome, 3 it is expensive, 4 it is stressful. But but but, 1 it is indescribably amazing, 2 it is expensive, 3 it is stressful 4, it is so peaceful to just sit and admire all these little miracles. They are so incredible.
Just think, they get laid inside an egg, buried in hole with 20-30 eggs all in big cluster, then hole completely covered. 9ish months later, those little tiny fragile babies, yet to take first breath or to see, have to figure out how to break the egg, which is little leather feeling egg the size of peanut mms, escape the egg, then figure out which way is up n down, begin digging, get past all the other eggs, thru the dirt, reach ground level, and take huge breath, open eyes and then immediately run up nearest safe tree before a bird or other predator eats it. That's just insane.
No help from mom or anyone else, it blows my mind.
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WOW! @Camiezone you ROCK! 🥰
 
Camiezone said:
Sounds great. I'm sure I will have some little monsters either brewing or terrorizing. I'm completely addicted. Imagine what is it like having 50 little ET s staring at you with their most angelic innocent expressions, begging for yummy fruit flies or pinhead. Loll its quite a show. Lol.
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I look at these baby pics everyday. So sweet.
 
Camiezone said:
You are all correct in your thoughts. 1 it is nerve wreaking, 2 it is worrisome, 3 it is expensive, 4 it is stressful. But but but, 1 it is indescribably amazing, 2 it is expensive, 3 it is stressful 4, it is so peaceful to just sit and admire all these little miracles. They are so incredible.
Just think, they get laid inside an egg, buried in hole with 20-30 eggs all in big cluster, then hole completely covered. 9ish months later, those little tiny fragile babies, yet to take first breath or to see, have to figure out how to break the egg, which is little leather feeling egg the size of peanut mms, escape the egg, then figure out which way is up n down, begin digging, get past all the other eggs, thru the dirt, reach ground level, and take huge breath, open eyes and then immediately run up nearest safe tree before a bird or other predator eats it. That's just insane.
No help from mom or anyone else, it blows my mind.
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It still blows my mind that it can take up to 9 months for the eggs to hatch.

But from a nature/survival aspect it started making so much sense to me when I was watching an interview Bill Strand did with a scientist/researcher (can't remember the name right now), I believe he was out in Yemen specifically, sleeping outside at night, observing chameleons for days at a time, IIRC. There was a part where he mentioned that during a dry season all of the chameleons (at least mostly) would die off in certain environments. But, the species keeps going because the eggs take so long to hatch that by the time they hatch.... it's likely one again back into a favorable environment.

I could be off on some of those details a little bit, but that's how I remember it. Truly wild. They survive by simply delaying 'life', and almost as if they completely start from SCRATCH again as a species.
 
Steve A said:
It still blows my mind that it can take up to 9 months for the eggs to hatch.

But from a nature/survival aspect it started making so much sense to me when I was watching an interview Bill Strand did with a scientist/researcher (can't remember the name right now), I believe he was out in Yemen specifically, sleeping outside at night, observing chameleons for days at a time, IIRC. There was a part where he mentioned that during a dry season all of the chameleons (at least mostly) would die off in certain environments. But, the species keeps going because the eggs take so long to hatch that by the time they hatch.... it's likely one again back into a favorable environment.

I could be off on some of those details a little bit, but that's how I remember it. Truly wild. They survive by simply delaying 'life', and almost as if they completely start from SCRATCH again as a species.
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Petr Necas :). I just listened to the hydration podcast featuring him the other day.
 
Steve A said:
It still blows my mind that it can take up to 9 months for the eggs to hatch.

But from a nature/survival aspect it started making so much sense to me when I was watching an interview Bill Strand did with a scientist/researcher (can't remember the name right now), I believe he was out in Yemen specifically, sleeping outside at night, observing chameleons for days at a time, IIRC. There was a part where he mentioned that during a dry season all of the chameleons (at least mostly) would die off in certain environments. But, the species keeps going because the eggs take so long to hatch that by the time they hatch.... it's likely one again back into a favorable environment.

I could be off on some of those details a little bit, but that's how I remember it. Truly wild. They survive by simply delaying 'life', and almost as if they completely start from SCRATCH again as a species.
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I watched the same episode. And it’s why veiled chameleons grow and reach sexual maturity so quickly. They only have so much time before they die of exposure. The rainy season creates an oasis, everything dries up, and they die. But the babies hatch at the start of the next rainy season and the cycle begins again. So sad!
 
Andrew1283 said:
I watched the same episode. And it’s why veiled chameleons grow and reach sexual maturity so quickly. They only have so much time before they die of exposure. The rainy season creates an oasis, everything dries up, and they die. But the babies hatch at the start of the next rainy season and the cycle begins again. So sad!
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It is, but it's also fascinating. They are such suvivors as a species! Between the quick maturity and the incredible amount of time eggs can survive before hatching, it's quite an evolution.

jurassic park life finds a way GIF
 
pemmiecan23 said:
Wanted to share some pictures of Hercules! Both pics are from this morning - one from when he had just woken up (still in his PJs 😊). The other one was him giving my misting machine some side eye :oops:
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He is so beautiful. Also, hey you have palms too! 🫱🏻‍🫲🏼 Spike actually really likes them lol I have two big ones in there. They are kinda hidden but you can kinda see them

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Steve A said:
Yes that one! haha :) I felt like I learned so much listening to that.

That's what really helped fuel the way I look at their hydration now. I wish I had known when I had my first Chameleon. But I'm glad I understand it now!
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Same! My veiled didnt get fogging for quite some time when I first got her. I fog for all 3 now, to me its a necessity,
 
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