advice on cage

Brad Ramsey

Retired Moderator
Have you decided on a male or female?
The size cage you describe would be adequate to house a female but on the
small side for a male.
Personally I would like to see it a foot taller for either.

-Brad
 

alan23

New Member
a male i want to get.i wil look for a taller cage then ws gonna get one of them flexariums just worried bout the mesh being eaten through.wht do you think about these? alan
 

Julirs

New Member
I just moved my male Veiled into a 24X24X48. It seems ideal for him and I can see why you wouldn't want to go much smaller. I have used 38 gallon Reptariums for my youngsters and have not had crickets chew through them yet, but my advice would be to get a good screen cage with a door that is easy to open. Remember that baby chameleons need to be able to find their food, so get an appropriate sized cage for their age and then move up when they are big enough.
 

alan23

New Member
so a 4ft tall cage wont b any gd to start off with am just thinking bout the money at the mo.
 

Julirs

New Member
Say you get a 2 month old male Veiled-a 38 gallon Reptarium costs $25.00 and will get you through about 4-6 months. Then you can save for or build a bigger cage.
 

alan23

New Member
ok man thanx i will do tht as i wnt the best for the cham im gonna get.did u add a fed cup on the 38 gallon if u have any pics of it wud b happy to c em thanx this forum very useful
 

Julirs

New Member
Here is a pic of my 38 gallon Reptarium. I do not use feed cups, my Veileds seem to be able to hunt down food just fine.
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alan23

New Member
one is a basking lamp on the side wht is the other? and wht do u rest ur repti sun on? looks cool though
 

Julirs

New Member
They are both basking lights. Reptariums have dark mesh so you need to use alot of light in order to see into them. My Veiled liked to hang from the top under the UVB light when he as a baby so in the picture it is propped up on cut up plastic cups. I currently am using 2 Reptariums and the lights are sitting directly on the top of them.
 

alan23

New Member
is tht a reptisun 10.0 i prob get cage and lights 2moro wht plants u gt in there sorry for being pain just wnt it right
 

Julirs

New Member
Yes-reptisun 10.0. In that cage I have a live Pothos, some fake plastic plants and some bendy vines. Another good plant that will fill the cage better is a Schefflera.
 

Julirs

New Member
I use a common handmister (spray bottle), and mist for about 2 minutes each time 3 times a day. I usually turn the lights on in the morning, mist a half hour later, then again at lunch time, and then again between 5-6. Asking questions is a good thing! I am glad that I had people to ask when I first got my Veiled.
 

alan23

New Member
do u spray like every few seconds i dont wnt to drown everything lol have done me resaerch for 2 months now so got a gd idea plus gt this site which is gd to help
 

dragonbreeder

New Member
Hello.
I used to have many veiled chameleons in the late 90’s, and for the first couple of years I had many cages that were too narrow (such as 2 feet by 2 feet by 4 feet tall). After years of building many different shapes of cham cages, and after meeting other keepers, (many from the CIN or Chameleon Information Network), I started to see that there was a better cage configuration. I have found that the best seem to be not only high, but wide. A typical veiled chameleon, just like other chameleons, likes to be high up, but also needs to move around horizontally.

So, a 24x24x36 might be suited for the smaller species, but is not best suited for an active veiled-sized cham for many reasons. It is a common misconception that height is the only important parameter. Chameleons seem more comfortable at higher levels, typically at least at human eye-level, but 2 feet by 2 feet does not provide ample space for a veiled chameleon to move around horizontally. In a 2x2 cage at the top, a cham can easily be forced to move downward to thermoregulate, instead of being able to move horizontally away from the heat source.

In the wild, chameleons do not move to the top of bushes and trees and stay there, they move around horizontally once they reach a comfortable level.

So, a great cage would be 4 feet wide, at least 2 feet deep and three feet high, with legs that put the top of the cage at about 6 feet or so from ground level. A cage like this sounds huge, but it really is not and can be built yourself and can be a fun project.

Believe me, I saw a big difference once I switched to this type of design.

Another consideration is cricket-control. Typical mesh used for cham cages will allow your feeder crickets to escape into your home. On the other hand using screen will stop that but can break your cham’s toenails if they decide to walk up it. A good solution to these issues is to use mesh on the inside and screen on the outside. The downside is decreased view of your animal. However, a solution to that is to add a glass door (to the front only), so that you will still have appropriate open-air flow around the sides, back, and top.

Good luck!
 

dragonbreeder

New Member
spraying and hydration

In addition to misting, a great method to hydrate your chams is a drip system in one area of the cage. The most basic (which provides great results) is to use a container with a pinhole on top of the cage. This allows the water to slowly drip through the mesh and onto a plant, let's say. For a veiled cham a small system is good. For a montane species, more water is required, and a larger container up top and shallow pan at the bottom of the cage keeps the cage from getting soaked, and allows the keeper to drain it at night, keeping away dangerous overly-damp conditions that cause molds.

One of my cages used to have a catch-pan outside of the cage as the bottom was mesh...
 
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