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drcrossfire
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ouch, that sucks.
who were the parents?
who were the parents?
fluxlizard
Avid Member
That is a good idea.
Keep in mind though that incubation times can vary wildly. I've had veileds hatch anywhere from around 5 to 13 months.
Its a good idea to get in the habit of checking eggs 3x per week after the 5 month mark.
chameleonneeds
Avid Member
Ignorance.
Don't think I could let 50+ eggs slip my mind.
Don't think I could let 50+ eggs slip my mind.
Dez
Chamalot Chameleons
We went on a trip recently for 5 days and had somebody watch the house. I had him check the eggs in the containers that where 6 months or older.
When we got home I ended up checking all the eggs (fresh laid and older eggs)
In the container that was only 5 months incubation I opened to find 8 baby panthers had hatched...the last time I had checked that container was a week before we left fo it had been 2 weeks.
I have no idea when they had hatched. 4 babies ended up dying and I don't know if the reason was because they where in the container too long or if they where just weak... maybe weak from hatching too early.
I don't know but your photos are very sad....
When we got home I ended up checking all the eggs (fresh laid and older eggs)
In the container that was only 5 months incubation I opened to find 8 baby panthers had hatched...the last time I had checked that container was a week before we left fo it had been 2 weeks.
I have no idea when they had hatched. 4 babies ended up dying and I don't know if the reason was because they where in the container too long or if they where just weak... maybe weak from hatching too early.
I don't know but your photos are very sad....
Beautiful4Ever
New Member
This is soooo sad 
laurie
Retired Moderator
Before you say it can't happen, let me tell you a bit about the man we are talking about!! Rafael is very careful with his chams and eggs. He cares about he chams the way most of us do, he loves them. Before he took his family to Hawaii last year one of his worries was that his chams were cared for. I don't defend a lot of people, but I just can't believe this couldn't happen to others.
Rafael I am so sorry this happened. I know you are heartbroken. I am happy you used this as an example to others of what could happen. Anyone who attacks you, needs to be perfect - I only know one prefect man & they killed him.
Chameleonmaster
Avid Member
Look at the bright side, at least you know they were fertile.
kgallego
Member
True True - but you can set reoccurring reminders for multiple times a week or once a week or once a month or whatever.
kgallego
Member
I don't know Rafael like Laurie does, but I do know one thing. I'm sure he feels pretty bad about it and doesn't need any criticism on top of it chameleonneeds.
Laurie is right. I only know one perfect man also, and I'm sure we're in agreeance of who it is
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ataraxia
Avid Member
^This man is right on. What happened here is my worst fear about breeding. I was just talking with another breeder a few months back about the fear of missing a chameleon hatch cause of the inconsistent hatching.
Im glad you posted this as a reminder to all of us breeding and many up coming breeders how important it is to check your eggs frequently.
Depending on species and temps i set a reminder on my phone for the earliest date they could hatch. From then forward i check every day (even though every other day or atleast every three days is sufficient). It is easier just to make a habit out of it and do it every day.
I also bought a beverage cooler that has a glass door on it as a incubator. So when i walk by i can glance the containers without opening the doors (even though i do anyways).
junglefries
Avid Member
mistakes
What is it religious people say 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. If you think you can not make a mistake, then you have already made one. He knew he had a lapse, but most likely posted to help educate others and a little moral support from friends. NOT to be chastised (did i spell that right, anyway you get my point)
What is it religious people say 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'. If you think you can not make a mistake, then you have already made one. He knew he had a lapse, but most likely posted to help educate others and a little moral support from friends. NOT to be chastised (did i spell that right, anyway you get my point)
chameleonneeds
Avid Member
Sorry for your losses Rafael.
Its disheartening when such things happen.
Its disheartening when such things happen.
laurie
Retired Moderator
Chameleonneeds I need apologize to you. I looked back at me, when my friend, Cheryl, told me about this thread, I was very critical in my mind. I came to the forum ready to try to tell the person to be more careful that they should not have let this happen. Yet to tell them the courage they demonstrated by telling the forum, knowing the reply's they would get, shows they care, so are trying to prevent others doing the same thing.
When I got to the thread, I used information know to me, since I know Rafael. I hope I would still have given the person the benefit of doubting how this happened but maybe I would not have reacted that way. I jumped to defend Rafael's actions by knowing the man, not by his actions. I still agree with every word I said about Rafael, but I was as harsh to others, like you, as some of you were to Rafael. I don't think me reacting to explain Rafael, and being rude to others, was a any better than, those who reacted to the information Rafael gave and were judgemental of him. I am sorry.
