Vieled moprhs?

Reptilezoo

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Hi all, am new here and just found out about this website. I have been breeding Yemens for some time now and about six months ago I found one baby with a couple of black patches on her. Still breeding form the two, unrelated yemens, more and more turned up with more and more patches. I've been on many other forums and only one out of five dislike them. I have had no problems healthwise or any other-wise. I went to see specialists and they all suggested I breed two of these 'morphs' to see if the gene is dominant or recessive. So I did, and a couple of weeks ago, the first clutch began to hatch. I have two so far and they both have the black markings on them :D . So if they all turn out with black patches, I may try a normal unrelated yemen with one with the patches on it and see what happens there. Here are some pics of them all:

















 
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jasonc488

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Very different. Although maybe new chameleon keepers might find them a bit odd. Black patches and all. I'm happy for you to beable to breed new morphs. Keep us posted in the future.
 

TylerStewart

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Interesting how the translucents had everybody up in arms, but these are ok (so far). I think they're good looking, anything different catches my interest.
 
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Brad

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I was trying to keep my mouth shut, but Tyler forced me to speak :p

I don't like them and would not consider keeping one. I don't find them interesting or attractive. My opinion is very similar to that of the translucents. Nothing personal against you Reptilezoo.
 

Hempa

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I have the same opinion as Brad. I find it sad that this kind of morphs is more desirable in genral in the reptile hobby.

So far I was happy to see that it was little of this in chams. But now it looks like its coming to chams as well...
 

Heika

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Interesting how the translucents had everybody up in arms, but these are ok (so far). I think they're good looking, anything different catches my interest.
I don't think people were up in arms just because the translucents were different. There were some pretty amazing claims coming out with those translucents, too. The lack of pigmentation concerned a lot of people because there wasn't (and still isn't) any conclusive research into whether the lack of pigmentation would cause health problems. Plus, they are just straight up ugly.

Ok, well, that one male that Mike posted a pic of recently isn't ugly. But, still.

And, Tyler.. let me directly quote you from back then..

"There were actually some good sized ones at Daytona, probably 6-7 month range, and some were showing quite a bit more white that the pics in the recent ad.... They were starting at less that $1,000 for the ones with a hand or a leg, up to $1,500 for the more "deformed" ones. They had one male in particular that was pretty heavily white, with most of his head and several limbs having that clear tone. Interesting, but most chameleon people that saw it just got a good laugh about it.... Not much potential for market a deformed chameleon.... They're fragile enough when they're not retarted."

Your reaction to them was less than accepting, too, if this quote is any indication. The morphs have taken some adjusting to. I think most people are more accepting of them now than they were a year ago when the translucents first hit the US market.

Veileds are leading the way in the chameleon morphs, it looks like. Perhaps they are the chameleon version of the ball python.

Heika
 

Jordan

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Interesting how the translucents had everybody up in arms, but these are ok (so far). I think they're good looking, anything different catches my interest.
You definately got a point there.

I believe (and I looked again) that one of our Hawaii memebers has some pictures of Jacksons that have the same thing going on only there are wild.
 

TylerStewart

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I don't think people were up in arms just because the translucents were different. There were some pretty amazing claims coming out with those translucents, too. The lack of pigmentation concerned a lot of people because there wasn't (and still isn't) any conclusive research into whether the lack of pigmentation would cause health problems. Plus, they are just straight up ugly.
Your reaction to them was less than accepting, too. The morphs have taken some adjusting to. I think most people are more accepting of them now than they were a year ago when the translucents first hit the US market.

Veileds are leading the way in the chameleon morphs, it looks like. Perhaps they are the chameleon version of the ball python.

Heika
Gee, how did I know this was going to come up again? My thoughts have been explained very clearly about this at least once, so I'm not going to drag it out again. Knowing what I know now about them, I'm not as against it as I once was (as I've said before).

As far as I'm concerned, breeding these is no different than two redheads having kids. Go to 95% of the planet, and there's no redheads. Just cause they happen in the United States doesn't mean they're not supposed to happen. I dated one for a long time, and she was certainly healthy...
 

TreelionsUK

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Gee, how did I know this was going to come up again? My thoughts have been explained very clearly about this at least once, so I'm not going to drag it out again. Knowing what I know now about them, I'm not as against it as I once was (as I've said before).

As far as I'm concerned, breeding these is no different than two redheads having kids. Go to 95% of the planet, and there's no redheads. Just cause they happen in the United States doesn't mean they're not supposed to happen. I dated one for a long time, and she was certainly healthy...
What are you on man!:rolleyes: Your chattin total kack
 

TreelionsUK

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All i am sayin is that,it seems like you think that people with red hair are mutants or something,and its funny how you compare a yemen chameleon with freaky black spots to a person with red hair? Please explain this???
 
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