Very strange Poo, slimy hard

[CasqueAbove]

My female "Caly" has , and still seems completely healthy.
Chameleon Info:

• Your Chameleon - Veiled 2 yrs , In my care 1yr 8months?
• Handling - basically never?
• Feeding - Since winter, last two months or so, dubia nymphs under 1/2 inch 3 to 4 times a week.(< 9 = @6 large crickets.)
• Supplements - I very lightly dust with CA no D3. MV every other week Fluker's Reptile vitamin w/ Beta Carotene. This has some D3 but otherwise I do not use D3 an I use solarmeter to keep UV in range 4-1 in enclosure,
• Watering - Mist 3 min in morning, Fog 3 to 4 times a week. This enclosure is in a master bathroom. there obviously can be times of high humidity. This is why I do not Fog daily.
• Fecal Description - Usually normal, on occasion they had been slimy or watery , point of post. never tested for pericytes. came from breeder at herp show.
• History - No history to speak of.

Cage Info:

• Cage Type - Open type enclosure, 6ft W x 3ft D x 5ft H
• Lighting - Arcadia 12% 48in (w/soarmeter). UVI 4-1. 65 watt plant bulb for heat 12in away from closest point.
• Temperature - I use Govee so tracks temp and humidity, basking 80 , avg 72-76, night <68 61max low
• Humidity -Day time < 50% night 70+, but when fog runs it pours over her making where she is 100%
• Plants - Lots of live plants, don't know names.
• Placement - Master Bathroom over inset tub. No traffic to speak of. She usually just comes begging for food when I am in there.
• Location - Salem Oregon?

Current Problem - As mentioned there have occasionally been watery or slimy poo. I had assumed this was from over hydration, as I was running fog every day.
I had not seen a dropping for about a week, which is a bit long, but they do get lost in the forest.
So she had a very large movement. It was slimy on part, and had something odd in it. Thought I originally thought pericyte and closer exam it looks like just undigested matter.
When I checked the urates, the slimy part, it was hard in side. It was packed with urate crystals.

Here are the photos. Any thoughts.

 

[Beman]

Undigested BSFL if I had to place a bet... Per the urate maybe because it took longer between bowel movements... I am not sure.

@ferretinmyshoes do you know?

 

[CasqueAbove]

Undigested BSFL if I had to place a bet... Per the urate maybe because it took longer between bowel movements... I am not sure.

@ferretinmyshoes do you know?

I have only fed the roaches in the month or so. Super light on supplements. She does eat alot of pathos and ficus
I do wonder if she was constipated.

 

[Beman]

I have only fed the roaches in the month or so. Super light on supplements. She does eat alot of pathos and ficus
I do wonder if she was constipated.

hmmmm weird... I tagged Dayna so she will know. When was the last time you did a fecal on her? May need to add some soft bodied feeders in for her if she is getting backed up with the roaches.

 

[CasqueAbove]

hmmmm weird... I tagged Dayna so she will know. When was the last time you did a fecal on her? May need to add some soft bodied feeders in for her if she is getting backed up with the roaches.

I haven't had a fecal run. I am hoping someone has an Idea.

 

[SourGrape4u]

Looks like dirt/sand to me

 

[CBee7726]

is that an undigested feeder I see in there? Or do my eyeballs deceive me?

 

[CasqueAbove]

is that an undigested feeder I see in there? Or do my eyeballs deceive me?

The top picks I think maybe parts. But not in last . It is like hard crystals

 

[CBee7726]

The top picks I think maybe parts. But not in last . It is like hard crystals

yeah I was referring to the first photo (I should have specified)

I wonder if she got dehydrated at some point (not that anything is pointing to this in your husbandry, and you know more than I do) or if this was buildup from being constipated?

 

[SourGrape4u]

Nothing to do with the poo, but i want to see how you have this in your master bath! Post pics plz

 

[Fchamel]

You can poke the bsfl flatter to make them easier to chew.

 

[CasqueAbove]

yeah I was referring to the first photo (I should have specified)

I wonder if she got dehydrated at some point (not that anything is pointing to this in your husbandry, and you know more than I do) or if this was buildup from being constipated?

I do wonder about dehydration as her misting was set for 5:30 but now she is asleep by then. It gets dark here early.

 

[CasqueAbove]

You can poke the bsfl flatter to make them easier to chew.

I have not fed bsfl just dubia cricket and super worm

 

[CasqueAbove]

Nothing to do with the poo, but i want to see how you have this in your master bath! Post pics plz

 

[Fchamel]

I have not fed bsfl just dubia cricket and super worm

Okay I'm not sure I'm sorry.

 

[Beman]

I do wonder about dehydration as her misting was set for 5:30 but now she is asleep by then. It gets dark here early.

I am about to change my schedule in the evening as well. Because by the time it goes off the boys are now tucked in.

 

[kinyonga]

Did you look at this thread?
https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/chameleon-poop-101.120171/page-14

 

[CasqueAbove]

Did you look at this thread?
https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/chameleon-poop-101.120171/page-14

I had seen it, but I took a deeper look. After seeing more pics I think it is normal, just large.

So the interesting thing is the hard urate crystals. I think if checked while fresh we may see it. It was interesting that it seems like it forms a protective slime around the hard crystalline urate.

 

[kinyonga]

You said..."It was interesting that it seems like it forms a protective slime around the hard crystalline urate"...maybe it's so it will just slide out.

 

[CasqueAbove]

You said..."It was interesting that it seems like it forms a protective slime around the hard crystalline urate"...maybe it's so it will just slide out.

Well that was my thought, but that would seem common and I am surprised it hasn’t been mentioned