Is it the Apogee brand? I've never used one, but see them at shows frequently. If we are talking about the same product, they seem to be well-made. My biggest problem with most commercial cages is that the wire mesh is too fine for larger chams. They get in a habit of being able to climb it, but by the time they reach 4-6 inches, their toes no longer fit, but they still try. The 65's are 36X18" and pretty tall, if I remember right. That would be a decent size for a veiled, certainly plenty of room for most females.