Metric
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LOL!!! pssh, you just made my day......car rides...el oh el. I wonder if he sticks his tongue out the window -.-''
Took Ocelot to the Vet...
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LOL!!! pssh, you just made my day......car rides...el oh el. I wonder if he sticks his tongue out the window -.-''
jojackson
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Kent67
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Wrong. Beating a dead horse would be continuing to try to convince him something may be wrong. The second post was to point out how only a week ago there was no reptile vet anywhere in his area and his belief that most vets only know cats and dogs (the bolded part) to this thread where his vet's diagnosis is apparently infallible, thus making my very first post trying to help (and everyone else's who has tried) even more pointless. Sorry I didn't make that more clear.
Lizardlover
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lol your seriousness made me laugh.....ahh today has been a good day on the forums...but your 100% right.
Seriously, these forums arent a big LOL,ROFL joke. If you want to joke and act like that you can do that in the lizard lounge, all of your posts either repeat what someone else has said or are pointless like the ones above.
OOOst16
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ok i getcha 
....but you have been on my back.....get off? i was the original person....who saw somthing was seriously rong with ocelot....(go back and read the original thread that started all this ...the one with the pictures)...and why are you picking on me....i WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE ....get off my back . Now.
....but you have been on my back.....get off? i was the original person....who saw somthing was seriously rong with ocelot....(go back and read the original thread that started all this ...the one with the pictures)...and why are you picking on me....i WAS NOT THE ONLY ONE ....get off my back . Now.
jojackson
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Ah I see. I took that to refer to continued posts on the thread.
Mind, I didn't catch the part about 3 dead lizards, though he did have a reasonable explaination for the first two, and has hopefully, as he says, learned from the third.
I find it paricularly interesting how intensely folk here seem to concern themselves with the health of others lizards, quite beyond in a general way, notabley, more so than with other species, more so than other forums too.
Ive never heard a group of forum members grind on so about a beardy or tegu for example. What is it about these particular lizards seem to make them so worthy of the attention that should apply equally to any pet? Theres a mystery to ponder in 2010
DJ Richey Rich
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maybe he should take it to an animal rescue officer and tell him all his stories hummmmm just a thought
Kent67
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Yeah, while it wasn't originally intended that way, it definitely applies now.
LOL. Post #73 says:
mudshark1971
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I just read your post today. He weighs 96 grams is what he weighed when he went to the vet last week. I decided not to post in here anymore because I dont need people that I dont even know or are not here to look at the animal deciding what is wrong with my animal from a picture. I had been given so much shit from people on this board and decided to not feed the fire. I was told about the bubbles and URI in another thread and was given advice to take him to the Vet. I waited a few days to see if it went away and it didnt. I took Ocelot to the Vet and he was given a weeks supply of introvenous Anti-Biotic called Baytril and Eye/ Mouth Drops called Tobramycyn Ophthalmic Solution .3% to be dropped onto his gums 3 times a day for 1 week by Sean J. Barrett, DVM 5395 at The Santa Clara Animal Hospital, P.C.. So the week has gone by and his mouth has cleared up. He does smile he has since about a month after I got him and still does now after his meds. After all the experts on here and not one asked where I lived so they can check him out (funny). The reason I wrote this is because you have been very kind to me since I have been on this board and for that im thankful, so I chose to give you the lowdown on my animal. All my animals are very well taken care of, so whoever made the comment about maybe the animal cops should come her I live at 857 Witham Way Harrisburg Or 97446 ill kindly let them in to check out my healthy animals. The Vet and not the only Vet to see Ocelot that day but the one who explained everything to me said he is at a very healthy length, weight, and width for him being only 8 months. I didnt take your ride to the Vet thing as you slamming me as others did btw. Thanks, Erick
OldSkoolxReasons
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This is a question but how do you know where to give the baytril if it has to be given intravenously? I have had a chameleon on baytril but it was only orally. I am just curious incase I ever have to give it intravenously. Thanks.
Justin
Justin
pssh
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In my honest opinion I think that maybe you should take him in for a second opinion. I only say this because of the shape of his head. It looks a bit too flat for my liking and that indicates that he is under weight. I'm not here to bash on you and I hope you dont take it that way, I just want you to know that he does look a little thin. If it were only his legs them I may not have said anything as when some chameleons grow their legs dont fill in for a bit, though they do look a bit thinner than what it normally considered not filled in.
It can't hurt to get a second opinion, and if you care about your animal then you will consider it because if indeed they do find something wrong with him, they can only try to help. I wish I had taken my first chameleon to second vet because I found out he was impacted even though the vet didn't think anything was wrong (though I knew he was acting a little funny and hadn't pooped for a while.) If I hadn't figured it out on my own and gave him a tiny drop of mineral oil he may not have made it and I would have felt terrible. I didn't know about impactions back then as I had never read or even heard about them. Take it from me, a second opinion is definately worth the 50 dollars or so it costs to take him in.
It can't hurt to get a second opinion, and if you care about your animal then you will consider it because if indeed they do find something wrong with him, they can only try to help. I wish I had taken my first chameleon to second vet because I found out he was impacted even though the vet didn't think anything was wrong (though I knew he was acting a little funny and hadn't pooped for a while.) If I hadn't figured it out on my own and gave him a tiny drop of mineral oil he may not have made it and I would have felt terrible. I didn't know about impactions back then as I had never read or even heard about them. Take it from me, a second opinion is definately worth the 50 dollars or so it costs to take him in.
mudshark1971
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His mouth is back gooey again so I am taking him to another Vet tommorrow. The Vet I spoke too today said with everything that has been done it cannot be an infestion, but he will test for a virus tommorrow.
mudshark1971
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Yeah the way my Vet had me give it to him was to chicken wing his arm up against his body so he cant move it, and then inject it into the muscle on the top of his arm. We talked about doing it orally and The Vet thought introvienously is better because it doesnt effect thier eating at all. I guess oral trama could make them not want to eat. Its wierd because after the shot the skin turns black for a while.
OldSkoolxReasons
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Oh, I was taking intravenously as you had to find the chameleons vein and inject it. But it sounds like its just a muscle injection. The injection site turns blackish because of bruising just like a human are would. Chams just bruise black not blue and purplish red like us Good luck with the other vet. I'm sure he will shed some light on the situation. If I were you I'd give the little guy some extra hornworm treats and maybe some supers or waxworms once or twice a week to help him fill out. My 10 month old male recent ended his growth spurt and began to fill out. He looked a little bit skinny before he started to fill out but his legs were still a little fatter than your little guys and his head pads were not deflated/flatish. Once he completes treatment for the bubbles in the mouth just be sure to feed him a little extra and make sure he has a good basking spot to help him digest his food. After any of my little guys that need a little extra to eat get done with breakfast in the morning they go bask for awhile(I keep basking between 84 and 88 for them) and then they are ready for dinner in the early afternoon. Silkworms, hornworms, supers, and female silkmoths that are fresh out of the cocoon packed full of eggs always seem to help my guys put on weight. Oh and of course roaches, if they are freshly molted you can feed off ones that are a little bit bigger than you normally would as they are like a soft bodied bug then. It would well for bulking them up. Good luck at the vet, I hope it's nothing that cannot be corrected as your little guy is very colorful.
Justin
Good luck with the other vet. I'm sure he will shed some light on the situation. If I were you I'd give the little guy some extra hornworm treats and maybe some supers or waxworms once or twice a week to help him fill out. My 10 month old male recent ended his growth spurt and began to fill out. He looked a little bit skinny before he started to fill out but his legs were still a little fatter than your little guys and his head pads were not deflated/flatish. Once he completes treatment for the bubbles in the mouth just be sure to feed him a little extra and make sure he has a good basking spot to help him digest his food. After any of my little guys that need a little extra to eat get done with breakfast in the morning they go bask for awhile(I keep basking between 84 and 88 for them) and then they are ready for dinner in the early afternoon. Silkworms, hornworms, supers, and female silkmoths that are fresh out of the cocoon packed full of eggs always seem to help my guys put on weight. Oh and of course roaches, if they are freshly molted you can feed off ones that are a little bit bigger than you normally would as they are like a soft bodied bug then. It would well for bulking them up. Good luck at the vet, I hope it's nothing that cannot be corrected as your little guy is very colorful.Justin
jojackson
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Generally the first dose is injected, orally thereafter, since baytril has a high PH and can be caustic and painful with repeated injections leading to other issues.
Im surprised the vet hasnt already done a swab to determin if the infective agent is gram positive or gram negative bacteria, which is important since different drugs are more effective in each case.
Baytril is effective with gram negative bacteria, however, bacteria are also classified by how they use oxgen.
Bacteria that require oxgen to survive and reproduce are called Aerobic. Those that dont, such as the type probably in your lizards mouth, are called Anaerobic. Baytril is inneffective against Anaerobic infections.
Creature13
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Half of mine do that themselves..... only if I had a dollar for all the cricket legs that have come off in my tweezers.
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