yeah it was the mother to the babies, i had her for about a year and a half and i imagine she was about that old when i got her. she was doing great eating, drinking, and pooping. then last 3 days i noticed she was acting slow and i noticed her at the bottom of the cage, where i never see her. i am pretty sure she was wild caught so maybe she died of old age. i had 4 of the babies live to 4-5 months then they started to die off on me. the last one lived for about 7 months. it was a pain to run those fruit fly cultures for that long and buy pin heads for $.10 a piece to see them die off for no apparent reason. thanks for the suppourt. ill be sure to post when i make the plunge and get another one.