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Andee said:
@jpowell86 I have now seen the answer after being absent from the forums for a few hours... I hate you about right now *pouts* I can't use correct words to describe my envy XD
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Lol, I completely understand. This has been a nine year quest. Janet still makes fun of my reaction when I found my first female crypticum.
 
jajeanpierre said:
I think the one thing Joel and I took out of this is how very little is known about them and the rules people used in the past to identify them are not necessarily correct.
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Most definitely. Very shocking to see what had to go into this to get a true phenotypical I.D.
 
leedragon said:
Holly F*ck man you have one of my top 3 species.
btw are you sure the female is crypticum? crypticum males, their dorsal "Crest" as far as I know have "spikes" now and then that are higher than the other spikes. is the same on females?
because on the female´s pictures. their spikes are hard to see if some are actually higher than the other. I hope you understand what I mean.
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I know exactly what you mean. This was actually one of the characteristics that made me first lean towards a C. amber. Now knowing that is a slim to none chance. But, things like this is why it took so long to properly I.D. them. My other female crypticum is very typical in appearance. She was an easy I.D. from the beginning. This girl took some time and many eyes that have field experience in Mada to help me I.D. her properly.

I now think the brevicorne-clade is very interesting. New results were being explained to me as how the same species can have different prominent characteristics from one area to the next. Plus, they are so close in appearance in some instances. But I was told that genetic testing is the next step in really pushing forward in figuring the brevicorne-clade out. Very cool stuff.
 
jpowell86 said:
Lol, I completely understand. This has been a nine year quest. Janet still makes fun of my reaction when I found my first female crypticum.
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That was sooooo funny. You have to picture that Joel is really tall. Really tall. Joel saw her, quickly scooped her up and danced around the room with her held high over his head out of my reach as if I was going to engage in a tug of war over a chameleon!!!
 
jajeanpierre said:
That was sooooo funny. You have to picture that Joel is really tall. Really tall. Joel saw her, quickly scooped her up and danced around the room with her held high over his head out of my reach as if I was going to engage in a tug of war over a chameleon!!!
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I heard he jumped in front of you before you could scoop her up lol. And to think I could have gotten her before both of you lol jk. I would have never done that you guys deserve to have them that is for sure.
 
Chameleon Crazy Chick said:
Do you know where I could find an importer near cincinnati? For the future, just in case....
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I really would have no idea. I'm sure there is someone here in the area that would know.

There really aren't all that many "importers". There are really a handful and they distribute the animals out to others and then these people claim they imported the animals. Weird, I know, but that is the way it works in this hobby.
 
This group of chameleons definitely needs more studying! Funny ...just by "accident" (I wasn't really sure)...after seeing the male I thought it was crypticum. I love this whole group. I'm definitely jealous and happy for you too!
 
kinyonga said:
This group of chameleons definitely needs more studying! Funny ...just by "accident" (I wasn't really sure)...after seeing the male I thought it was crypticum. I love this whole group. I'm definitely jealous and happy for you too!
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Well then you would have made the perfect guess!!! This group really does need more work. But, then again, all chameleons need more. There is still so much we don't know.

Thank you, I am so glad to have these animals and I know Janet is too!
 
jpowell86 said:
I know exactly what you mean. This was actually one of the characteristics that made me first lean towards a C. amber. Now knowing that is a slim to none chance. But, things like this is why it took so long to properly I.D. them. My other female crypticum is very typical in appearance. She was an easy I.D. from the beginning. This girl took some time and many eyes that have field experience in Mada to help me I.D. her properly.

I now think the brevicorne-clade is very interesting. New results were being explained to me as how the same species can have different prominent characteristics from one area to the next. Plus, they are so close in appearance in some instances. But I was told that genetic testing is the next step in really pushing forward in figuring the brevicorne-clade out. Very cool stuff.
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yeah those are one of my favorits. I was thinking she was a calumma hilleniusi first. but I do agree, more research need to be done. I belive all those were calumma brevicornis Before they were split into the different species. Before that they all were just localities o bevicornis. I been told back then it was really hard to breed them due you need to have the same locality of male and female ( now we know that was because they were different species). and the eggs of different localities would not hatch. I do wonder which brevicorne species can breed with each other. becuase your female makes me wonder if she is indeed a cross between brevicorne species. I hope you manage to have some Babies. do you know anything about their diapaus btw?
 
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