bridgetnshane
Member
Has anyone tried this for there Cham?Is it safe and does it work. Kinda iffy about it. Thanks
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RandellTheCham
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Id use the repashy superfood clacium plus.
Peachypink
Chameleon Enthusiast
I have the Repashy Calcium Plus, it's the one you want to get for a Cham, not the one in your picture. It's all in one and used every feeding. So much easier than having three separate powders.
RandellTheCham
Established Member
Do you use daily?
Stinger
Established Member
Supplements ,does have to be confusing .
Follow a schedule, that most of us do here. Just don't dust your feeders ,so they look like ghost for one . I found a simple regiment from a fellow Chammer .Gut loading with good Veg.& Fruit.
Day one Repashy All in One Calcium Plus .
Day Two Calcium without D3
Day Three Nothing no supplements.
Just Repeat afterwards.
Follow a schedule, that most of us do here. Just don't dust your feeders ,so they look like ghost for one . I found a simple regiment from a fellow Chammer .Gut loading with good Veg.& Fruit.
Day one Repashy All in One Calcium Plus .
Day Two Calcium without D3
Day Three Nothing no supplements.
Just Repeat afterwards.
Peachypink
Chameleon Enthusiast
Yes.
Peachypink
Chameleon Enthusiast
Repashy Calcium Plus is an all in one daily supplement, there is no need for any other supplement. Kammerflage Kreations did a 3 year trial on this before they started recommending it to their customers. If you use Calcium Plus that should be the only thing you use.Supplements ,does have to be confusing .
Follow a schedule, that most of us do here. Just don't dust your feeders ,so they look like ghost for one . I found a simple regiment from a fellow Chammer .Gut loading with good Veg.& Fruit.
Day one Repashy All in One Calcium Plus .
Day Two Calcium without D3
Day Three Nothing no supplements.
Just Repeat afterwards.
If you were using the separate supplimens then it would be Calcium without D3 daily, Calcium with D3 twice a month and a multi twice a month.
By giving the Calcium with D3 every third day you will end up oversupplimenting on D3, and it adds even more when you are using it alongside the Calcium Plus. Too much D3 can cause issues as well.
Peachypink
Chameleon Enthusiast
Supplements ,does have to be confusing .
Follow a schedule, that most of us do here. Just don't dust your feeders ,so they look like ghost for one . I found a simple regiment from a fellow Chammer .Gut loading with good Veg.& Fruit.
Day one Repashy All in One Calcium Plus .
Day Two Calcium without D3
Day Three Nothing no supplements.
Just Repeat afterwards.
I apologize, I misread your post, your day 2 is without D3. So you are not oversupplimenting with the D3.
I am curious why you alternate the Calcium Plus and the regular calcium? From what Krammers told me and what I have read about the Calcium Plus is that it is to be used as the only supplement with every feeding.
bridgetnshane
Member
What is that picture I posted then? Used for and do. It's confusing me. All I have is calcium without d3 I sprinkle on everyday for him. What do I need to purchase that's needed for him
Extensionofgreen
Chameleon Enthusiast
Less is more with all supplements, IF you have a proper and well varied gutload. Studies are showing in both humans and reptiles that obtaining vitamins and calcium through proper diet is ideal and supplementing actually causes health issues.
I do not mean to say to rely on gutload alone, but in my opinion, especially in adult, geriatric, or montane species, supplementing with anything more often than 3-4 times a week is overkill and doing more harm then good.
I would like to add that I have used many supplement lines over the years and I rank minerall and repashy as my preferred lines. I use other brands and other products, but those 2 lines are well thought out and time tested.
Regarding your specific product question, it would do no harm added as part of a normal vitamin supplementing regime and mixed with the repashy plus, it will deliver the intended benifits of ingredients designed to enhance color. Will you notice a change in color from using the product? Probably not, as you can achieve the same goals by feeding your feeders brightly colored vegetables and fruit, but the added antioxidants that will come along with the ingredients in that product won't do any harm.
I'd advise a schedule something like:
Plain calcium
Skip a day
Skip a day
Repashy plus and Repashy super pig cut 50/50 every other week and plain calcium on the opposite week
Skip a day
Repashy LoD every other week ( the week you don't use the Repashy Plus )
Skip a day
People do what works for them and what has proven successful. Lots of things are up for debate, but I can gaurentee a couple things:
1) less is more with ALL supplements
2) small amounts, more often is best
3) chameleons in captivity get much less UVB than in nature, that doesn't mean they need more UVB or more D3, but using a low dose product weekly won't hurt, even if it doesn't help ( we don't know how much chameleons utilize dietary/supplemented D3 )
4) Use preformed A
5) Growing animals and gravid females need the most calcium, the above schedule covers them, adult animals that are not gravid and older animals should be reduced to 2 days a week of supplemented calcium and on weeks they get vitamins, use calcium one day and vitamins the other.
6) No one has a perfect answer that is best for all species, each animal, and every set-up. We have to practice what is proven safe and tweak things based on our own working knowledge of our animals, our gutloads, and our set-ups.
7) HYDRATION
A few 30+ mins sessions a week is more natural and beneficial than several 2 min sessions everyday. If you need daily misting for humidity, still offer at least 2 long sessions a week.
I do not mean to say to rely on gutload alone, but in my opinion, especially in adult, geriatric, or montane species, supplementing with anything more often than 3-4 times a week is overkill and doing more harm then good.
I would like to add that I have used many supplement lines over the years and I rank minerall and repashy as my preferred lines. I use other brands and other products, but those 2 lines are well thought out and time tested.
Regarding your specific product question, it would do no harm added as part of a normal vitamin supplementing regime and mixed with the repashy plus, it will deliver the intended benifits of ingredients designed to enhance color. Will you notice a change in color from using the product? Probably not, as you can achieve the same goals by feeding your feeders brightly colored vegetables and fruit, but the added antioxidants that will come along with the ingredients in that product won't do any harm.
I'd advise a schedule something like:
Plain calcium
Skip a day
Skip a day
Repashy plus and Repashy super pig cut 50/50 every other week and plain calcium on the opposite week
Skip a day
Repashy LoD every other week ( the week you don't use the Repashy Plus )
Skip a day
People do what works for them and what has proven successful. Lots of things are up for debate, but I can gaurentee a couple things:
1) less is more with ALL supplements
2) small amounts, more often is best
3) chameleons in captivity get much less UVB than in nature, that doesn't mean they need more UVB or more D3, but using a low dose product weekly won't hurt, even if it doesn't help ( we don't know how much chameleons utilize dietary/supplemented D3 )
4) Use preformed A
5) Growing animals and gravid females need the most calcium, the above schedule covers them, adult animals that are not gravid and older animals should be reduced to 2 days a week of supplemented calcium and on weeks they get vitamins, use calcium one day and vitamins the other.
6) No one has a perfect answer that is best for all species, each animal, and every set-up. We have to practice what is proven safe and tweak things based on our own working knowledge of our animals, our gutloads, and our set-ups.
7) HYDRATION
A few 30+ mins sessions a week is more natural and beneficial than several 2 min sessions everyday. If you need daily misting for humidity, still offer at least 2 long sessions a week.
Peachypink
Chameleon Enthusiast
Thanks for this @Extensionofgreen, there is a lot of "do it this way" with no real explaination. I appreciate it when people take the time to explain things a bit better. I have a basic understanding but am still trying to research the why and what behind supplimets. I find it all very interesting.
bridgetnshane
Member
I agree, It is confusing and still is to me. Knowing I have no idea on any products breaking with calcium and vitiamns that's the main reason why I never fed any in the recent past to my cham. Cus I didn't want things to get worse when I'm trying to majebhim healthy.All i can really do is experiment when I'm even scared to do that
KeopiCat
Avid Member
Would a shower be a good substitute for misting your cage 30+ mins? Also, if you feed your chameleon every other day, would the schedule look like? Would it be a dusted meal every day, or would you just spread the aforementioned schedule out?
Extensionofgreen
Chameleon Enthusiast
A shower is a great substitute, if provided for the same duration. There are no instances where it is adviseable to routinely skip every other day in feeding. If you are away or your chameleon is refusing food, then they tolerate that well, but it shouldn't be the routine to offer food every other day, only.
KeopiCat
Avid Member
It isn't? In the care sheets it says 7- 10 large feeders every other day for adults.
Extensionofgreen
Chameleon Enthusiast
Some people give adult chameleons 1-2 fasting days a week, and that is fine, but a growing chameleon should eat as much as it wants, within reason. A growing veiled can easily consume 2 dozen large crickets a day and should be alloud to do so. A veiled that is a year to year and a half old should be reduced in the daily amount and perhaps fasting days introduced, particularly in females, as you want to prevent large numbers of eggs being formed.
Rations should be adjusted by the animals weight, sex, age, fitness, mobility, and enclosure size, not arbitrarily instituting every other day feedings at all life stages.
Rations should be adjusted by the animals weight, sex, age, fitness, mobility, and enclosure size, not arbitrarily instituting every other day feedings at all life stages.
KeopiCat
Avid Member
@Extensionofgreen So does feeding everyday with 3 dusting days of calcium plus sound good?
KeopiCat
Avid Member
Currently I have reptivite, a calcium with d3, and one without. Would you recommend I just invest in one powder?
Extensionofgreen
Chameleon Enthusiast
I would stick to what you have. 3 days a week sounds good.
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