Size of chameleon vs size of his snacks

Hello,

I have a male veiled chameleon about 2-3 months and was just wondering if these worms I got him for snacks are too big? The packages label says “small” but they sure don’t look small lol

Sorry if the pics sucks, just trying to give an idea. The works are really big, obviously not bigger than him but im wondering if I should just put them to the side until he grows a little more. Thanks! 99112AE9-5188-4E91-8045-D0C06A0A42A9.jpeg
 

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extrajordinary

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A general rule is that you shouldn’t offer feeders that are bigger than the space between your cham’s eyes. So if the worms are longer than the space between your cham’s eyes, it’s best to look for smaller feeders. In my experience, “small” feeders from pet stores are rarely small... :cautious:
 

Brodybreaux25

Chameleon Enthusiast
Agreed^ they are at the upper limit of what I think can be fed comfortably but it’s hard to tell since they aren’t in the same pic. But you should still throw the worms out, not a good feeder. This is what you want:
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Brodybreaux25

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Please fill out the “how to ask for help” form and post your answers back here. Quality pictures will help us help you.



Chameleon Info:

◦ Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?

◦ Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?

◦ Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?

◦ Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?

◦ Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?

◦ Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?

◦ History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.



Cage Info:

◦ Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?

◦ Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?

◦ Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?

◦ Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?

◦ Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?

◦ Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?

◦ Location - Where are you geographically located?



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Please fill out the “how to ask for help” form and post your answers back here. Quality pictures will help us help you.



Chameleon Info:

◦ Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?

◦ Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?

◦ Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?

◦ Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?

◦ Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?

◦ Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?

◦ History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.



Cage Info:

◦ Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?

◦ Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?

◦ Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?

◦ Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?

◦ Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?

◦ Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?

◦ Location - Where are you geographically located?



Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.



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Please Note:

1 The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.

2 Photos can be very helpful.
I already filled this out on a previous thread I posted when I first got him. Thank you though
 
Also, if these are mealworms then they offer virtually no nutritional benefits to your little guy.
Well, this is why I was saying I was feeding him as a snack. I had ran out of dubias and so did petco so I had to grab something in the meantime. The ones in the bowl are super worms but meal worms are also what I give him sometimes when I run out of the roaches.
 
Please fill out the “how to ask for help” form and post your answers back here. Quality pictures will help us help you.



Chameleon Info:

◦ Your Chameleon - Veiled chameleon, male, 2-3 months according to the last person I filled this out for. He has been in my care for about a week or so now.

◦ Handling - I have not handled him yet because I feel he needs more time to get used to the way things are going. Don’t want to stress him out.

◦ Feeding - Feeding is just starting to pick up, as I haven’t found the perfect way to feed him. I started with meal worms then found out they aren’t great for every day feeding. I then got dubia roaches and finally after a lot of trial and error figured out a way to feed him without them running away or falling to the bottom (put them on the ceiling). Now that I’m getting him to eat in general I’m going to start gut loading. Also I tried a feeding bowl but I don’t think it’s the best for this cage set up.

◦ Supplements - Repticalcium for the calcium no D3 and reptical for the multi vitamin and calcium with D3. Without D3 in mostly every feeding and others every two weeks.

◦ Watering - I have a pressurized mister that I spray whenever I see it gets dry and I also use a dripper for secondary/ when I’m at work. I mist just all the plants until I see they’re well dripped for him to drink. I actually saw him drink for the first time today after using the water purifier I got! Was very exciting, I was getting worried :)

◦ Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites? There are dark and light fecies around the cage. No he has not been tested as I just got him.

◦ History - nothing I was told.



Cage Info:

◦ Cage - Combo cage with glass that has ventilation in the front doors and mesh on the top. 12 x 12 x 18 for now and will be upgrading in a few months when I love. Brand is Exo-terra.

◦ Lighting - Reptisun UVB 5.0 light for the UVB. Switched from the infared nano 25w to the 25w basking for heat. Brand for heat is zoo med. 8am-8pm for both.

◦ Temperature - 84 degrees at all times (aside from night time) I got a system that shuts off when it gets any hotter than that. It floats above the mesh with just a makeshift lamp holder I set up. Bottom stays at 72 degrees. Big time I’ve seen mid-low 70s. I have 3 thermometers. One is the original with a temp and humidity gauge. Second is the new system I referred to that has the timer. Third is a classic thermostat for the bottom.

◦ Humidity - From 50-70. Sometimes 40’s and 30’s when ventilation is going smooth. 80’s at night. Maintaining by making sure ventilation is good and misting the substrate if it gets too low. Use a thermostat/humidity gauge.

◦ Plants - No live plants for now, waiting til I get a new cage then hopefully going fully bioactive.

◦ Placement - Cage is in the corner of my room, kinda made its own little room by covering it all up with makeshift blinds. No fans or air vents nor high traffic. Don’t know the height. It’s on a night stand.

◦ Location - East Bay Area.



Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.
He is shedding and I just want to make sure it’s normal that it’s white and it all looks normal in general. Ill provide pictures. Feeding techniques still aren’t perfected. I feel like a feeding bowl doesn’t really work because he stays at the top and my placement is towards the middle as that’s where it fits best. I’ve been going through trial and error with placing the food near him but he gets a little startled and I want to avoid stressing him out but it’s the only way he eats. He ends up eating I just want to see if there’s a better way. I’ve seen a makeshift feeding station that looks amazing but I would probably have to wait until I get the bigger cage because my cage is too small to fit it. Also, any specific place you recommend to buy dubias? Maybe also crickets too, I’ve tried to avoid getting those little terds but I might have to just do it to make sure he has variety, unless you know any other insect that’s as nutritious.
I’m going to try to provide photos for every question.
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Please Note:

1 The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.

2 Photos can be very helpful.

Chameleon Info:

◦ Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?

◦ Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?

◦ Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?

◦ Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?

◦ Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?

◦ Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?

◦ History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.



Cage Info:

◦ Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?

◦ Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?

◦ Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?

◦ Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?

◦ Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?

◦ Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?

◦ Location - Where are you geographically located?



Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.



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Please Note:

1 The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.

2 Photos can be very helpful.
 

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extrajordinary

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Well, this is why I was saying I was feeding him as a snack. I had ran out of dubias and so did petco so I had to grab something in the meantime. The ones in the bowl are super worms but meal worms are also what I give him sometimes when I run out of the roaches.
Oh whoops, I missed that they were a snack. I think they can lead to issues though, if I’m not mistaken. So probably not a good snack either. But don’t worry, I’m guilty of having offered them to my guy when I first got him.
 

extrajordinary

Established Member
Chameleon Info:

◦ Your Chameleon - The species, sex, and age of your chameleon. How long has it been in your care?

◦ Handling - How often do you handle your chameleon?

◦ Feeding - What are you feeding your cham? What amount? What is the schedule? How are you gut-loading your feeders?

◦ Supplements - What brand and type of calcium and vitamin products are you dusting your feeders with and what is the schedule?

◦ Watering - What kind of watering technique do you use? How often and how long to you mist? Do you see your chameleon drinking?

◦ Fecal Description - Briefly note colors and consistency from recent droppings. Has this chameleon ever been tested for parasites?

◦ History - Any previous information about your cham that might be useful to others when trying to help you.



Cage Info:

◦ Cage Type - Describe your cage (Glass, Screen, Combo?) What are the dimensions?

◦ Lighting - What brand, model, and types of lighting are you using? What is your daily lighting schedule?

◦ Temperature - What temp range have you created (cage floor to basking spot)? Lowest overnight temp? How do you measure these temps?

◦ Humidity - What are your humidity levels? How are you creating and maintaining these levels? What do you use to measure humidity?

◦ Plants - Are you using live plants? If so, what kind?

◦ Placement - Where is your cage located? Is it near any fans, air vents, or high traffic areas? At what height is the top of the cage relative to your room floor?

◦ Location - Where are you geographically located?



Current Problem - The current problem you are concerned about.



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Please Note:

1 The more details you provide the better and more accurate help you will receive.

2 Photos can be very helpful.
That hanger trick is nifty!!!
 

extrajordinary

Established Member
Agreed^ they are at the upper limit of what I think can be fed comfortably but it’s hard to tell since they aren’t in the same pic. But you should still throw the worms out, not a good feeder. This is what you want:View attachment 232009
@Brodybreaux25 I think there’s one picture with a feeder and the OP’s cham. I took a screenshot and circled the feeder.
 

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