Sick Nosy be, first time owner.

cla2806

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Hello all,
I am new to the forum but I felt I had nowhere else to turn!
My little guy has been sick for weeks now, been to the vet twice and still he is not 100 %.
Info on him,
He is a 9 month old nosy be purchased from a reputable breeder online. I recieved him in Feb when he was 3 months old. He was tiny of course and I always thought he was on thr small side but that's not the major issue. He is in a screen enclosure ,low traffic area away from vents. two live plants misted at least 3 times a day, no substrate other then paper towels.. Reptisun 5.0 uvb. Basking lamp temp at 85 to 90 deg. Was eating mainly crickets sometimes mealworms dusted witg repcal with d3 Mon through thurs , herptivite Fridayandsat, sun no supplements. he was never a big eater from what I could see since I've purchased him but he was thriving and growing up until a long ago. It started with one eye closing, took him to vet was given eye drops, used those no success, then within days both eyes were closed limited activity since he could not see was still drinking water this whole time. Became stumbly, falling off cage and plants, not eating. Back to vet, prescribed baytril for possible infection still no improvement after a week of that. Did my own reseach and started to thonk he may have vit a deficieny. Pet store recommended force feeding repashy and giving some vit a as well. So ita been about 1 week he's been getting repashy mixed with his supplements and a tiny bit of vit a since large amounts can kill them. He now opens his eyes at times, still drinks water and ive even seen him lingering around his cup, I have placed dubias, tried hornworms in there still won't eat! What else can i do? Am i doing somwthing wrong! Any help is appreciated i dont want to see him go.

Chameleon Info:
Your Chameleon - 9 month old Nosy Be
Handling - never, until he got sick
Feeding - mainly crickets, occasional mealworms, have tried dubias and hornwoms since hes been sick no success, gut load flukers cricket gutload, veggies such as carrots, celery, anything i have in the fridge really
Supplements - repcal with calcium, herptivite repcal 4 times a week, herp twice.
Watering - misting
Fecal Description - tested for parasites, clean. since hasnt been eating only urate which is white. when he was eating poop always normal
History - bought from reputable breeder at 3 months old
Cage Info:
Cage Type - screen cage
Lighting - reptisun 5.0 basking bulb temp 85-90 degrees, 12 hrs. on 12hrs. off
Temperature - 85-90 basking, general temp in cage about 80, night time 75 slightly lower have extra infrared bulb for heat only if necessary
Humidity -thermometer on back of cage, usually around 80 percent
Plants - 2 live plants , cant rememerb names but did check to see if they were cham safe
Placement - in room low traffic area, not close to vents or any other heat or light sources such as windows
Location - virginia beach, gets really hot in the summer!!
 
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Welcome to the forum, you've come to the right place. There are many experienced people and I'm sure someone can help you. From what I see I think you might have a wrong suplement schedule (I don't know those brands well). It is usually recommended to use plain calcium every feeding, calcium with D3 twice a month and multivitamin twice a month.
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It sounds like hes being overdosed with d3.

You should be using a calcium with NO d3 every feeding, a calicum WITH d3 TWICE A MONTH, and the multivitamin twice a month.


even if the d3 is not the case.. its definitely not helping him right now.

can you post photos of him too please?

im sorry hes nto doing very well.
 
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thank you , you have brought that to my attention, so my incorrect supplementation could have caused all of this? what should i do now? continue with the repashy? and vit a? obvioulsy cut out the d3 and continue wtih herptivite? how long will it take him to recover.. i feel horrible now, what can the over supplementation do?
 
I just googled my supplments and I have the Repcal with D3 and the herptivite multivitamin so I am missing the repcal with calcium only correct?
 
I just googled my supplments and I have the Repcal with D3 and the herptivite multivitamin so I am missing the repcal with calcium only correct?

Yes.

the d3 sould only be twice a month, same with the multi.

I woudl stop using the d3 all together for a while.. id say at least a month..

up mistings, lots of water.

and once you get the calcium without d3, use that on every other feeding..

if you can get him outside for natural sunlight,, that will help him alot as well.
 
My avatar was when he was healhty obviously, I can take some pictures when I get home, currently at work, when he frist got sick he was still very vibrant, slowly started turning darker, when he is handled he brightens, then gets dark again, i didnt touch him for a couple days hoping he would eat by himself and he looked bright again and then within an hour or so was back to the same..he hangs out on the vines all day not as active as he used to be or should be. will post pics of him asap.
 
yea sounds like a d3 overdose..

stop using it alltogether for now.

give lots and lots of water.
 
the gentlmen at the pet shop reccomended repashy for the crested geckos which says it is ok for chameleons as well, I first asked about the flukers reptiaid but he said it might stress him since it is more oily then the repashy, i know this isnt what hes supposed to eat but i dont want him to starve. i tried to get a cricket in his mouth a while back..had nothing to do with it spit it right out.
 
i noticed that when i spray he perks up and readily drinks so i have been misting more often then usual..thank you for your help. i hope he starts to eat again..how long can a recovery from this take?
 
The repashy for crested gecko diet??? thats not for chams.

It can take several weeks for him to recover, but he will, in time.

as he looks to be almost an adult, he can go a while without food, its water that he needs right now.

but keep trying to offer food in case he wants to eat. but dont force him.
 
thats what i thought myself, the container says that it can be used for them too, he is actually really small probably because he hasnt been getting exactly what he needed. i feel horrible now. so if i shouldnt continue with the repashy how would i get the calcium in him?
 
Through a calcium supplement.
they make a calcium powder with no d3 in it.

you probably have to order it online.

i think reptical makes it, but cant say for sure, as i dont use any of those suppelements, im a repashy user.
 
Yeah I was reading your paragraph and it looked great....and then I read D3 dusting 4 days a week. I honestly don't even use calcium with D3, I make sure mine doesn't have any in it.

Luckily I'm in Florida so I can give my guy natural sunlight, I prefer that then hearing about a D3 overdose. I totally understand a colder climate owner dusting with D3, but as stated by others I've heard to dust only twice a month.

I think the idea of getting him off supplements for now and making sure he gets a LOT of water. I'm not sure but maybe hornworms would help? They hydrate to maybe the combination of water and worms can help your little guy.

Post some pictures, I hope all turns out well for you and your cham.
 
Oh ill def get the supplement with calcium only but I meant how will he ingest it, he's not eating I dont want him to starve he has obviously lost weight. Should I continue giving him the repahsy with the calcium only I use 0.2 mls once a day. Is there something better or something else I can do?
 
Oh ill def get the supplement with calcium only but I meant how will he ingest it, he's not eating I dont want him to starve he has obviously lost weight. Should I continue giving him the repahsy with the calcium only I use 0.2 mls once a day. Is there something better or something else I can do?

you mean the repashy suff you have now for the cresties? no.

he wont starve. my adult male veiled has gone a week without eating a single bug.

just stop all supplemetns for a few days... water him.. dont offer any food for a few days.. then offer a couple bugs dusted in teh calicum only.
 
Ok ill try that, without any food how long can they survive? Like I mentioned he is very small for his age one vet said he looked a little small the other said they continue to grow so he's ok but now that I know he hasny been getting the right vitamins I would assume that's why hes so little. What should i do of he doesn't eat in more then a week.. or will hunger drive him to eat regardless I will post pics so I can better illustrate his size for his age.
 
Ok ill try that, without any food how long can they survive? Like I mentioned he is very small for his age one vet said he looked a little small the other said they continue to grow so he's ok but now that I know he hasny been getting the right vitamins I would assume that's why hes so little. What should i do of he doesn't eat in more then a week.. or will hunger drive him to eat regardless I will post pics so I can better illustrate his size for his age.

Sometimes hunger will make them eat.

sometimes not.

when was teh last time he ate anything?

and waht bugs do yo uoffer him?
 
Oh wow! Last time he ate was more then a week ago maybe more then that I really think the only thing that has been keeping him going is that repashy. He was pretty chubby when be got sick so maybe hes been living off of that , crickets mainly , then mealworms those were the last things he ate and he ate about 4 but that was a while ago. I bought some dubias and they are in his cup, I bought some hornworms and two are in his enclosure now he hasnt tried to eatany. Last week he was hovering over the cup and I had 2 mealworms in it that I since replaced eith the roaches but he just got ckose like he was going to eat but never did.
 
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