She abandoned another hole! Whyyyyyy?

Certain cham will use the soil n other prefer sand,those 2 are their prefer choice,seem like ur cham didnt feel comfortable to lay the eggs in the coco fiber n moss.
 
alphakenc said:
Certain cham will use the soil n other prefer sand,those 2 are their prefer choice,seem like ur cham didnt feel comfortable to lay the eggs in the coco fiber n moss.
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I'm going to wait till it's delivered tomorrow to check on her or mist, she might just not be feeling the moss mixture.
 
We have to think like a female cham n make sure she is comfortable in laying......she is wondering if my eggs will be safe in the hole?? Thats why after the female laid the eggs,she will cover those eggs up with little trace as possible....,ESI(eggs site investigate)
 
I'm trying so hard to make everything perfect for her! I'm actually afraid I'm trying too hard, but I only allow myself one peek in the morning and one late afternoon for her misting. She's got killer insticts, I have to give her that... I rigged up a paper towel roll to act like a telescope for peeking and she caught me instantly!
 
I actually would recommend a spy cam over peeking. Once they get use to the spy cam being there, they usually don't notice it and aren't bother by it like they are by a human's presence.
 
Spy cam sounds like a plan! Amazon should send my dilly bean a thank you card after all the stuff I've accumulated this week... I already had the basics on hand, but my mailman is going to think I'm up to something.
 
I would try and get the smallest spy cam that you can, so its not very intrusive, but get one that also works for your purposes well. Also the great thing about spy cams is that you can look in on her any time of day without worrying about ruining everything.
 
This way you can be over bearing but not be scary and cause unhealthy problems. If you are naturally ocd and a worrier (with anxiety) .... trust I know this problem all to well... I do not look forward to the days I breed montanes or just in general have females that lay, I see nothing wrong with obsessively looking in to make sure your baby is doing ok, but only if you do it in a way that is safe for the female.
 
Andee said:
This way you can be over bearing but not be scary and cause unhealthy problems. If you are naturally ocd and a worrier (with anxiety) .... trust I know this problem all to well... I do not look forward to the days I breed montanes or just in general have females that lay, I see nothing wrong with obsessively looking in to make sure your baby is doing ok, but only if you do it in a way that is safe for the female.
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I just want my bean to be ok, and it is killing me that I can basically not do anything for her. I want to help her, and the only way I can is to give her space. I'm going to run to best buy tomorrow morning and set up a cam to calm my nerves without hurting her. I'm disabled so I spend 99% of my time home with the lizards and they've both become my best friends in a way. On days that I'm not up and about as much, they're ok with that as long as they have what they need and on good days, little foot colors with me and Dilly bean chills out on my headboard. I guess I want to be there for her in a human way, but she needs me to be there in a chameleon way!
 
I know how hard it can be, my animals are my life as well, however I definitely have far too many for it to be considered normal. Lol. Plus a lot of my animals that aren't considered part of the permanent members of my household (which if everyone was a part of my permanent household I would not have room to move), get rehomed within a few months of living here. I technically could be considered disabled if I think I could get enough money to live off of on disability, however I don't honestly think I could with the way California's disability program works. My animals are amazing, and a lot of the time I know I honestly wouldn't be here because of many things in my life if it hadn't been for them. Every single one who has been in my life is amazing.
 
Andee said:
I know how hard it can be, my animals are my life as well, however I definitely have far too many for it to be considered normal. Lol. Plus a lot of my animals that aren't considered part of the permanent members of my household (which if everyone was a part of my permanent household I would not have room to move), get rehomed within a few months of living here. I technically could be considered disabled if I think I could get enough money to live off of on disability, however I don't honestly think I could with the way California's disability program works. My animals are amazing, and a lot of the time I know I honestly wouldn't be here because of many things in my life if it hadn't been for them. Every single one who has been in my life is amazing.
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I'm incredibly lucky to have family and my husbands support, otherwise I would never be able to make it either. I had to move from NC to Baltimore for treatment at John's Hopkins and my mom is the only other person I know here. So my lizards are who I spend the most time with. Permanent members of the house here include a differently abled hawk moth with a deformed wing that I built a ramp for this afternoon because he can't fly up to the feeder. I named him chopper because he can only fly in circles... I think everything that breathes is permanent here! But I know all these creatures need me so I gotta keep going.
 
Lmao gotta love those disabled critters who worm their way in our hearts. I should introduce Chopper to my syrian hamster, Badger, He has some serious physical disabilities and is all mentally there either. Sadly, I used to have a wide network of people who I easily trusted and could rely on. That circle has slowly shrunk to two people, one of them lives nowhere near me, I have severe trust issues.
 
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