Thanx for a reply, you two. i was actually reviewing my threads i started to help little leaf, when i noticed this one. it kinda struck me as odd that no one ever posts to people asking about incubators. i have seen a lot go unanswered. Hence, my smarta** comments. i can only think of two reasons for this: 1) no one wants others to make money other than them 2) current breeders find anyone asking these questions to be unworthy of breeding. i myself, have built 5 styrofoam cooler incubators using heat cables and proportional heat regulators. so, i am up to speed as of 4 months ago. thanx though.