PATTERNLESS panthers

[Chachi]

I would like to see a bleach white chameleon with no bar nothing naked like albino baby bum, or half red and half white ,that will be freaking awesome,maybe someone already have that who knows

Look at this guy. I just saw his picture and kept it.

 

[alphakenc]

He has bars. You can faintly see them. He's just not showing them at that moment. That is extremely common for a nosy Mitsio. I think you might still be missing what I'm talking about. I'm not talking about a Panther that can make his bars disappear sometimes. I am talking panthers that come out of the egg with out bars all together. Not something like a mood change that can hide them. I mean panthers that are born like this.

Great and exactly like u said "faintly" see them,if u look at ur baby pics u posted which alphakenc I give u a like review,u can see more bar than the California highway,every cham will have some bar to a certain extent,unless is like I stated albino panther.

 

[alphakenc]

Look at this guy. I just saw his picture and kept it.

Lol.

 

[alphakenc]

You can faintly see them

And if u look at Bob red cham right next to the front leg,u can also "faintly" see the Y shape bar behind those red shades.
If we can trace all the way back on each every single panther chams on earth,their great great great great grand grand grand Sires,they all have bars,we might thought they have no freaking bars,jus like we thought Columbus discover America but Not!!
So far I haven't seen any albino panther cham around on this earth,maybe the Vikings already discovered them who knows

 

[cyberlocc]

I have seen a few chams like this. They have no bars because they are not full panther they are Panther/Oustalet hybrids.

He does have bars he has the black bars and white stripe of a hybrid, in the black and white photo you posted. You posted before about having hybrids so how do you not know that is a hybrid lol.

His face is the biggest give away, he has Oustalets markings on his face and eyes. He is 100% hybrid, as for the babys, they are hybrids then mixed with more panther blood? who knows what they may look like.

 

[Craigwyatt]

I have seen a few chams like this. They have no bars because they are not full panther they are Panther/Oustalet hybrids.

He does have bars he has the black bars and white stripe of a hybrid, in the black and white photo you posted. You posted before about having hybrids so how do you not know that is a hybrid lol.

His face is the biggest give away, he has Oustalets markings on his face and eyes. He is 100% hybrid, as for the babys, they are hybrids then mixed with more panther blood? who knows what they may look like.

I'm not sure if you are joking or your serious. But incase you are serious these guys are not hybrids. Not a chance. But if you really feel that way than atleast you can see the difference I'm talking about. If you go back and read my first post I talk about getting a group of them last year. All clutch mates. He was the only one like it. The rest were typical looking panthers.

 

[bobcochran]

Do you have pics of the adult pair? I'd like to see what they look like.

 

[cyberlocc]

I'm not sure if you are joking or your serious. But incase you are serious these guys are not hybrids. Not a chance. But if you really feel that way than atleast you can see the difference I'm talking about. If you go back and read my first post I talk about getting a group of them last year. All clutch mates. He was the only one like it. The rest were typical looking panthers.

I am serious. You also had a group of hybrids last year, isn't it possible you got 1 mixed up ?

The op black and white pic, is a hybrid. It would be one thing to not have bars, that I could agree morph or anomaly. However he also has outslaets traits, do you have more pics of him that aren't black and white. That first pic is a dead ringer for every hybrid I have seen.

 

[Craigwyatt]

I don't want to expose one of my best fishing holes on here. This male will be recognizable to some. Bob send me an email and I'll show you you privately.
[email protected]

 

[Craigwyatt]

I am serious. You also had a group of hybrids last year, isn't it possible you got 1 mixed up ?

The op black and white pic, is a hybrid. It would be one thing to not have bars, that I could agree morph or anomaly. However he also has outslaets traits, do you have more pics of him that aren't black and white. That first pic is a dead ringer for every hybrid I have seen.

No there wasn't any mix ups. I noticed him the moment I opened his cup last year. Here's his pic straight out of the shipping box. This is the original boy from last year. Same boy in the first pic. And that first pic isn't in black and white. It's a regular pic

 

[Chase]

Are the ones you got this year from the same pairing? It'd be interesting to start breeding to see if it is in fact a gene or not.

Oh I'd also like to see the parents as well, if you don't mind.

Chase

 

[Craigwyatt]

Chase. I'm not positive but I believe they are only 50% related (same sire different dam). Email me and I'll share the sire pic with you.

 

[Chase]

Chase. I'm not positive but I believe they are only 50% related (same sire different dam). Email me and I'll share the sire pic with you.

Just for breeding purposes, I'd find that out. Just to have lineage so you could breed different lines without having to inbreed.

Chase

 

[distortionz]

Look at this guy. I just saw his picture and kept it.

He's mine glad you like him..

 

[distortionz]

I would like to see a bleach white chameleon with no bar nothing naked like albino baby bum, or half red and half white ,that will be freaking awesome,maybe someone already have that who knows

Kammerflages atanatar went completely white for a while.. But you could still see his barring.. As it happens he is actually the sire of the boy of mine that chachi posted the picture of

 

[Craigwyatt]

I just took some new pics of these guys. Thought I would share. These are all different babies. 0 bars on these guys.

 

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[Craigwyatt]

The original animal again