Do you have a pic of the chameleon you were modeling? Maybe we can find the same species and get you a few more pics off the one you were using originally.
Sorry if I’m misunderstanding.
Hello, thanks for your reply, im answering later because i was trying to handle this by myself first, to avoid asking for help and take your time.
Yes, i understand what you mean, each type is different, im understanding it after seeing a lot of photos, pardalis is the family and then different types from different regions of madagascar, nosy be, ambilobe etc.
My problem is, lack of photos to get the idea, yes, i know more or less but i need a better approach.
I dont want to post a long answer but is needed to explain and you'll understand perfect what is happening, you have to take the perspective that i never seen one cham and discovering the shape by videos-photos.
1- The problem.
I started with this one:
https://www.shutterstock.com/es/ima...dalis-86294356?src=kek90phuR7eeaCvaSlYSQA-1-3
I was looking first this one, doing well the jaw, looking from different photos from the same cham how the bulding is and where end, the general shape of the mandible, looking a head skull etc, until i saw the another bulging on the left side of the lower mandible
, is like a rollecoaster, i understand it, now not, i understand it, now not, and again, and again... breaking my head
Then switched to this one (photo attached at the end) that i saw more bulged jaw but i can't figure out how really is the buldged zone of the mandible, where start, where ends, how outside is relative to the top of the jaw etc.
This one also from the frontal view is completely different, the chams looks so easy from the side, but the frontal view change a lot, it looks wider on the chin so i have to figure out how wider or not is the chin etc... probably the resolution and shadows are lying here a lot.
What i learned about the mandible, they have around the bone a lot of skin/muscles giving another shape to the animal, not exactly how is the head skull (maybe i'm wrong, but is what i have observed).
Fortunately, after a lot of trouble, on 1 of my search I realized when the cham open the mouth show the real shape, when is close the lower line of the lower mandible is hidding, this can make wrinkles on the chin (apparently a characteristic feature of this type), if the dewlap is not bulging the wrinkles or how the mandible is hidding is more notorious.
minute 2:06 to 2:16
And this one also, miute 0:20
The lack of photos from the top or bottom of the head is also a problem, and even having a bottom one from what seems to be a panther:
https://www.chameleonforums.com/media/hi-biscus-everyone.55403/full
Do you see how is bulding the corners and the lips outside?, so how can i see there?, and the colors are not good to check the shape also.
I find that shadows, point of view etc lie.
just to finish.
What i need is properly photos, centered, with correct light and resolution, not beautiful photos, photos that can clearly see the shape, frontal, top, bottom, 3/4 (all as possible from different angles), correct shadows to see the shape, not lying shadows giving another shape to the animal etc like that photo attached.
So just good photos
I dont need the photos right know, if you or someone wants to provide them will be cool, for the moment im going to leave this aside for my health
and going to make a red eyed tree frog, look the difference, just googling "eyed... bottom" and i get this refference, im not surprised because document this animals is a really hard job in my opinion, maybe i'm wrong.
https://depositphotos.com/photo/bot...-walking-agalychnis-callidryas-597696768.html
Thank you for your time!
No…I mean that some of the panther chameleon species have different shapes to body parts….like the nose shape for instance. Each panther species also has specific body colours so you can’t be accurate by painting a “ narrower nosed species with the colours of a species that has a wider nose structure…it’s not easy to explain….and even harder to find photos that will illustrate what I’m trying to explain.
Yes i understand you perfectly, body differences and colors.
To be honest, because i'm compeltely new this i dont catch the color differences like you, for example the nosy be from what i saw tends towards blue but probably you know a lot more and see smaller differences that i dont get right know.
Anyway, maybe I'll cheat with the color
, I want to be faithful to the shape but with the color probably i'll choose a configuration i like and that's all, just to get a color that I love
I also accept suggestions, no problem for that.
Thank you again.
