owenyeconiel
New Member
so when he 1 years old or more he will turn to blue or stay blue-green like this? i see he is kinda green now. or optical illusion? haha,idk exactly its a blue or green.
Panther "Morph" Pictorial...
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so when he 1 years old or more he will turn to blue or stay blue-green like this? i see he is kinda green now. or optical illusion? haha,idk exactly its a blue or green.
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
It is tough to say how he is going to mature (1 to 3 years from now). He could become more blue with age. Seems like he is on the green side now with some hints of blue.
owenyeconiel
New Member
i wanna buy the female on,so he can mate. haha. can i breed nosybe with ambanja or ambilobe? their breed will be mixed bloodline isnt it?
Ace
Avid Member
yes you will get a cross. some mite not like crosses but people will usually get the males for color and keep them as pets ,not for usual breeding purposes. and i can imagine it being tough trying to find homes for the female crosses...it woulod be fun though....
they are all the same species but you will get some color variation.
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
Who you breed your male with is up to you the breeder.
Ace
Avid Member
also i say get a nosybe female to see what you get, and at least you can say they for the most part nosy be , with some little variation if any. BUT he looks all nosy be to me
owenyeconiel
New Member
Ace
Avid Member
phew,should save to buy new female. haha. its quite expensive.
IMHO opninion try JIM from chameleon company. the prices are pretty good and you get a nice variation to it. if you plan to get a female.
Ace
Avid Member
where there is a will there is a way...but i agree...
save up....keep at least a couple grand for breeding plus vet visits. so you dont worry later on
owenyeconiel
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Red Island
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Trace
Captain Awesome
I believe this thread is an offshoot of one of the pardalis morph discussions that have been happening the last day or so. First of all I must say I have not kept up with all of them so my apologies if I'm repeating something. Secondly I have not finished my coffee.
Back in the day Nosy Be imports were green and anybody that I know who has been to the island report that as well. (That's been mentioned in this thread here already) I assume that fresh Nosy Be imports should be green. Interestingly enough, there was a discussion on a different list where the captive bred offspring of normally green lizards are often blue or bluish green because of a lack of carotenoids in the captive diet. We certainly know more now about proper husbandry and nutrition and we are using high carotenoid foods in our gutload but is it enough to maintain the green wild type colouration through successive generations. Has our limited captive diet of insects and supplements (both sources of nutrients and minerals) for chameleons affected the look and colour of captive bred panthers.
Cheers,
T
Back in the day Nosy Be imports were green and anybody that I know who has been to the island report that as well. (That's been mentioned in this thread here already) I assume that fresh Nosy Be imports should be green. Interestingly enough, there was a discussion on a different list where the captive bred offspring of normally green lizards are often blue or bluish green because of a lack of carotenoids in the captive diet. We certainly know more now about proper husbandry and nutrition and we are using high carotenoid foods in our gutload but is it enough to maintain the green wild type colouration through successive generations. Has our limited captive diet of insects and supplements (both sources of nutrients and minerals) for chameleons affected the look and colour of captive bred panthers.
Cheers,
T
Motherlode Chameleon
Chameleon Enthusiast
I have seen some new Nosy Be imports that were blue upon arrival and some that were green upon arrival of being imported. It would not surprise me if this panther population have got both green and blue phenotypes however to what degree exhibited varies.
Cham Fan
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I am by no means a cham expert but if he was green in the wild then phased to blue in captivity I would think it is either a lack of or an introduction of something different going from free to captive. Diet, light, suppliments, feeders, all those impact the overall herp right? He should/would morph to suit his current environemnt as best he could to thrive right?
