Panther chameleon

jamest0o0 said:
No worries, funny how people only talk that way on the internet, shows their weak character.
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Sad people like yourself think you know it all talking about character while calling strangers idiots and newbies then later edited what you said because you're so tough please remind me again how tough you are thanks for the laugh
 
Well since no one said it in all the arguing. The reason why you shouldn't feed mealworms is because they have a hard exoskeleton and are hard for chams to digest. Are they actually meal worms? Or are they superworms? Superworms are fine.
 
Excavation said:
Hmm?? For 1. When did I say that's all I feed my chameleon ??????? Please answer this I said I'm feeding mealworms that's all i said lol what makes you think that's all I feed him so why are you mentioning the value of them ? For 2. I asked for help simple question and it should be answered simply I've read books and I've owned chameleons and never have I noticed what I noticed yesterday not in person or in books so I was wondering if anyone else has experienced it or has ever noticed anything like it and if they had any advice simple! I didn't ask for snotty comments calling me an idiot or anything like that ok today I won't make the same mistake I'll just go speak to a specialist thanks anyhow
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Considering the necessary questions were never copied and answered, all we, including @jamest0o0 has to go off of, is what you offer. Not being rude, but if you would kindly fill out the info in the sticky, it could easily avoid assumptions based off the only information you are providing. I have seen @jamest0o0 offer wonderful information and help to those regardless of length of experience so long as they provide all info needed. In other words, help us, help you :)
 
jamest0o0 said:
If you cut the heads off bugs thinking they'll harm your chameleon, you clearly haven't learned much in 10 years. Why come to a forum and ignore advice. People take their time to help and you can't even fill out a form. Probably reflects your work ethic in life...

Btw I've had reptiles for 20+ and never cut the heads off, that is a stupid myth. And really... the amount of years you keep reptiles means nothing when doing it wrong, that's why I had a ton to learn when joining here. Anyway let me ask, what is your reasoning for feeding mealworms? Because they suck for nutrition. If you feed them for variety fine, but doubtful what you're doing based off your newbie comments.

Edit: notice how nobody has helped You? Learn to read stickies and maybe someone more patient than me will help you. Good luck little guy
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Well said, listen to advice
 
I'm confused. Does this OP need help with the panther or not? Guess we'll never know now. Hope the little guy is OK.
 
I know because of my time zone I weigh in late on forum threads, but geez, some folks seemed to have their knickers in a knot yesterday.:confused:
 
Lennoncham said:
Well since no one said it in all the arguing. The reason why you shouldn't feed mealworms is because they have a hard exoskeleton and are hard for chams to digest. Are they actually meal worms? Or are they superworms? Superworms are fine.
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Yeah they were actually superworms and my chameleon did not eat yesterday as well so I was told to raise the humidity inside his cage seems that's its to dry and everything about him seems fine until right before he's going to swallow the insect seems like he has trouble retracting his tongue fully inside but once he drops the insect his tongue goes back in fine kinda like if the insects are too big but it's weird because I have seen him eat twice the size so if he doesn't get better I'll have to take him to the vet but for now I'm feeding him what he'll accept which is the super worms chopped in half which he swallows fine it's really scary cuz he's really hungry and can I see his frustration when swallowing he wants more food but its too hard for him to swallow fully I feed him hornworms roaches wax worms pray mantises moths silkworms I didn't fill out a sticky because I didn't see one but if someone could explain that would be nice thanks
 
Excavation said:
Yeah they were actually superworms and my chameleon did not eat yesterday as well so I was told to raise the humidity inside his cage seems that's its to dry and everything about him seems fine until right before he's going to swallow the insect seems like he has trouble retracting his tongue fully inside but once he drops the insect his tongue goes back in fine kinda like if the insects are too big but it's weird because I have seen him eat twice the size so if he doesn't get better I'll have to take him to the vet but for now I'm feeding him what he'll accept which is the super worms chopped in half which he swallows fine it's really scary cuz he's really hungry and can I see his frustration when swallowing he wants more food but its too hard for him to swallow fully I feed him hornworms roaches wax worms pray mantises moths silkworms I didn't fill out a sticky because I didn't see one but if someone could explain that would be nice thanks
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https://www.chameleonforums.com/threads/how-to-ask-for-help.66/
 
I apologize for my part. I need to just stop looking at threads like this, gets to me that people act differently online. But i realize i only see it from my angle and I should be a little more understanding. Many come here, ask for help, and then throw it in your face. I need to just let it go and move to the next thread. I've been helped by so many people here when i got back into reptiles/chameleons and loved how people were willing to help with down to earth, straightforward advice, so i try and return the favor where i can. I dont claim to be an expert, but i have read about and obsessed over this stuff for enough time to give ny .02cents. I had animals for 15-20 years, but that didnt mean much after i found these forums and other online resources. A lot of people confuse surviving animals from thriving animals(i have done this i must admit!). I'm not trying to insult anyone, but when you see one say they cut the heads off mealworms and feed them regularly, that insinuates to me that they need help with more than just that. I dont care what people do with their lives, but i hate seeing animals in poor conditions so i get a little too pushy at times. Theres better ways to handle it though.

As for mealworms, theres nothing wrong with feeding as variety(small amounts). A healthy cham shouldnt be impacted by a couple. But the reason i said don't feed them is because people tend to overdo a lot of feeders. it is easier for a newbie(from what i assumed considering the question) to get a hold of husbandry while scratching unnecessary things like mealworms off. I know this was a little off topic, but poor husbandry seems to be the cause of most problems. If you post the caresheet filled out, and everything is right, then we can move onto the next thing.
 
Chameleon Info:
  • Your Chameleon - panther chameleon male 3yrs had him since he was a month old
  • Handling - when he was younger not often but now I handle him everyday for feeding
  • Feeding - hornworms superworms roaches pray mantises silkworms moths the amount I feed is whatever he'll accept depending on the size of the insects he'll eat 5-10 insects a day most insects are gut-loaded by me but not all because sometimes I just feed right from the store
  • Supplements - I was using D3 and calcium but it seemed to have a negative effect on him around this time I was giving vitamins everyday but I stopped and now I do reptile multivitamins once a week seemed to being doing good for him until now maybe needs a boost
  • Watering - I mist three times a day each time I mist a full bottle I see him drinking all the time he loves water and is always excited to drink water he also has a dripper yet I never really see him drink out of it
  • Fecal Description - since I last noticed the tongue I also noticed his poop was yellowish but before the tongue problem it was normal he has never been tested for parasites he has had one check up with the vet only when I first got him
  • History - it's seems to me he's been an amazing Cham since i first got him really healthy and never showed any issues of illness of any sort up until now

Cage Info:
  • Cage Type - 4ft by 4ft cage metal screening
  • Lighting - I use dual dome one side has a heat emitter and the other has uvb on the other side of the cage I use a tube light lights go on as soon as the sun's out and I turn off when it's night time
  • Temperature - cage floor is about 75-80 basking spot is about 85 -90 I measure it with a thermometer lowest temp would be around 70
  • Humidity - I have the humidity gauge right next to the humidifier reading 75 but seems like the humidity isn't getting thru the cage properly
  • Plants - no live plants at the moment I'm building a different cage right now
  • Placement - in the corner of my living room next to a fan not all of traffic there
  • Location - California I want to also mention my chameleon spends a lot of time outside free roaming in the sun like maybe half of his day or so

Current Problem - my chameleon is having trouble fully swallowing his food he's hungry and all and his tongue works just fine but when he's retracting the insect he seems to have some trouble on his way in and ends up spitting it back out like if something is in the way or if his tongue isn't fully functioning at the end not sure exactly what could be causing this his tongue goes fully inside right up until he's about to bite down and then something weird happens and he spits it back out and then his tongue goes back in what I've done to keep him from starving is feed him cut insects which he seems to swallow fine but he's definitely hungry for more full worms


I'll take pictures later today when I get off of work
 
jamest0o0 said:
I apologize for my part. I need to just stop looking at threads like this, gets to me that people act differently online. But i realize i only see it from my angle and I should be a little more understanding. Many come here, ask for help, and then throw it in your face. I need to just let it go and move to the next thread. I've been helped by so many people here when i got back into reptiles/chameleons and loved how people were willing to help with down to earth, straightforward advice, so i try and return the favor where i can. I dont claim to be an expert, but i have read about and obsessed over this stuff for enough time to give ny .02cents. I had animals for 15-20 years, but that didnt mean much after i found these forums and other online resources. A lot of people confuse surviving animals from thriving animals(i have done this i must admit!). I'm not trying to insult anyone, but when you see one say they cut the heads off mealworms and feed them regularly, that insinuates to me that they need help with more than just that. I dont care what people do with their lives, but i hate seeing animals in poor conditions so i get a little too pushy at times. Theres better ways to handle it though.

As for mealworms, theres nothing wrong with feeding as variety(small amounts). A healthy cham shouldnt be impacted by a couple. But the reason i said don't feed them is because people tend to overdo a lot of feeders. it is easier for a newbie(from what i assumed considering the question) to get a hold of husbandry while scratching unnecessary things like mealworms off. I know this was a little off topic, but poor husbandry seems to be the cause of most problems. If you post the caresheet filled out, and everything is right, then we can move onto the next thing.
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I detest people that feel better than others you my friend have a very sorry life I can tell it's ok tho I never said I cut the worms everyday I only mentioned that because of the tongue issue I honestly don't need your help there's plenty of people on this forum that will help without the rude comments thanks again but no thanks you are upset about something you have no control over and if you truly cared you'd help instead of insulting me with your newbies comments I feel bad that so many people are discouraged by low lives like yourself not me you can continue trolling and for the comment about animals suffering? Do you work at a rescue because I can direct you to a few here in the sfv they got alot of volunteer positions
 
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