My Chameleon is dying :(

[snitz427]

Yes like if you had oxygen on hand. Some thought I was odd. I just want your old friend to be comfortable.

You could force feed, but he is old let hi be at peace. My male eats cut up romaine lettuce. maybe.

Mostly just water and warmth and hope his suffering is short.

If you can get him to a vet great. But I know this is not always so easy.

Oxygen is prescribed In specific dosages and patients are closely monitored. Not to be played with and it can be lethal to humans.

 

[CasqueAbove]

Oxygen is prescribed In specific dosages and patients are closely monitored. Not to be played with and it can be lethal to humans.
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Yea if you took it straight. Putting the line near won’t hurt.
If you have oxygen in the home you will know about it.

Oh yea better call all those oxygen bars and tell them ?. There killing people

 

[CasqueAbove]

Yea if you took it straight. Putting the line near won’t hurt.
If you have oxygen in the home you will know about it.

Oh yea better call all those oxygen bars and tell them ?. There killing people

 

[snitz427]

Yea if you took it straight. Putting the line near won’t hurt.
If you have oxygen in the home you will know about it.

Oh yea better call all those oxygen bars and tell them ?. There killing people

Im unfortunately quite familiar with oxygen in the home, monitoring with pulsometers, etc.

If you suspect you are dying, will you go to a doctor or an oxygen bar?

 

[Ares05]

@MyChamSmoke How is he doing?

 

[cyberlocc]

Yea if you took it straight. Putting the line near won’t hurt.
If you have oxygen in the home you will know about it.

Oh yea better call all those oxygen bars and tell them ?. There killing people

I have never heard of this. Looked it up, and as it would seem, they actually are.

People have, and are dying from these "Oxygen Bars", if you have certain health issues, it can be dangerous or fatal.

There doesn't seem to be concern, as much for healthy people, but certain diseases and illnesses, can cause a bad reaction.

 

[JoXie411]

an oxygen bar?

Duh oxygen bar ?‍

 

[MyChamSmoke]

@MyChamSmoke How is he doing?

Hello he's currently basking trying get him into a vet tomorrow on payday.

 

[CasqueAbove]

I have never heard of this. Looked it up, and as it would seem, they actually are.

People have, and are dying from these "Oxygen Bars", if you have certain health issues, it can be dangerous or fatal.

There doesn't seem to be concern, as much for healthy people, but certain diseases and illnesses, can cause a bad reaction.

But also this:
Respiratory emergencies Treatment of respiratory emergencies in reptiles follows the same principles known from small animal emergency medicine [12]. In emergency situations, supplemental administration of oxygen via face mask is of short-term benefit. Establishment of a patent airway by endotracheal intubation or placement of a tracheostomy tube has priority if obstructive processes are present. The presence of large amounts of fluid and secretions within the tracheal lumen requires removal by suction. Once the reptile is stabilized, obstructive processes such as abscesses or foreign bodies within the oral cavity or tracheal lumen should be removed.

https://www.vetexotic.theclinics.com/article/S1094-9194(02)00020-8/pdf

cyberlocc
Thank you for responding with inteligence. Look it up. find fact. If I am wrong tell me, but tell me why.

And yea I don't say oxygen bars are a good thing, you havent even concidered the bactieral aspect.
But you can also by canned oxygen over the counter.

It was only a sugestion, that might help the animal and OP feel better in the short term. I stand by it.

I don't want to get off toopic. This thread was about someones old and passing pet. I am sure they thank you for the bable.

cyberlocc: You have good facts, I will likely pm you latter. Im a interested in the balance of d3, calcium and uvb.

 

[CasqueAbove]

Hello he's currently basking trying get him into a vet tomorrow on payday.

Sorry things got so off topic. Glad he is doing better. I hope he pulls through and ends up being the oldest on record.
They can be very resilient, and if you had him that long you are doing something right.

 

[MyChamSmoke]

He's currently not interested in crickets or two superworms I let climb the mesh. I put him in the shower this morning help with the breathing. Stayed in the sink whole time. Recent photo I used a 70watt mega-ray help with basking. Temps are like 89-90 and hasn't moved much last I heard.

 

[MyChamSmoke]

Sorry things got so off topic. Glad he is doing better. I hope he pulls through and ends up being the oldest on record.
They can be very resilient, and if you had him that long you are doing something right.

I had him a long time he always done well. Last stool check he was clear. He's been going down hill ever since the bulge on one of his eyes. Vet didn't do much.

 

[The Wild One]

He's currently not interested in crickets or two superworms I let climb the mesh. I put him in the shower this morning help with the breathing. Stayed in the sink whole time. Recent photo I used a 70watt mega-ray help with basking. Temps are like 89-90 and hasn't moved much last I heard.

Was the sink full of water???

 

[CasqueAbove]

I had him a long time he always done well. Last stool check he was clear. He's been going down hill ever since the bulge on one of his eyes. Vet didn't do much.

Sorry the vet couldn't do more. He is old you are doing right by him. We can turn back time but we can make him comfortable.
I am Stiil hopping for a turnaround. ?

 

[CasqueAbove]

Im unfortunately quite familiar with oxygen in the home, monitoring with pulsometers, etc.

If you suspect you are dying, will you go to a doctor or an oxygen bar?

???????? please be intelegent. There is no coralation here. If I was hurt and having trouble breathing I would take help where I could get it.

 

[snitz427]

???????? please be intelegent. There is no coralation here. If I was hurt and having trouble breathing I would take help where I could get it.

Then I would recommend, if you were hurt, wait for an EMT or doctor to provide you with oxygen, if needed, and don’t go huffing someone’s o2 tank. Oxygen is not provided to anyone who falls ill or calls an ambulance. Oxygen is provided when your blood’s oxygen saturation is low, and then it is administered to a calculated percentage.

Misuse or overdosing can result in a build up of co2, which can get you an express pass to the ICU for intubation and/or a bipap. ICU is required as you must be closely monitored in this situation. Hope you’re advanced directives are up to snuff as that’s a no-go if you have an dnr or dni. Ask how I know.

Is that intelligent enough for you?

 

[snitz427]

I had him a long time he always done well. Last stool check he was clear. He's been going down hill ever since the bulge on one of his eyes. Vet didn't do much.

Sorry if I missed this, can you share a photo of the bulge on his eye?

 

[CasqueAbove]

Then I would recommend, if you were hurt, wait for an EMT or doctor to provide you with oxygen, if needed, and don’t go huffing someone’s o2 tank. Oxygen is not provided to anyone who falls ill or calls an ambulance. Oxygen is provided when your blood’s oxygen saturation is low, and then it is administered to a calculated percentage.

Misuse or overdosing can result in a build up of co2, which can get you an express pass to the ICU for intubation and/or a bipap. ICU is required as you must be closely monitored in this situation. Hope you’re advanced directives are up to snuff as that’s a no-go if you have an dnr or dni. Ask how I know.

Is that intelligent enough for you?

Much better, but we are talking about a chamelion not a person, so this is still irrelevent.
In fact a reptiles respitory is different than a human.

Pleas read.
https://www.vetexotic.theclinics.com/article/S1094-9194(02)00020-8/pdf

and also this exerpt.

Respiratory emergencies Treatment of respiratory emergencies in reptiles follows the same principles known from small animal emergency medicine [12]. In emergency situations, supplemental administration of oxygen via face mask is of short-term benefit. Establishment of a patent airway by endotracheal intubation or placement of a tracheostomy tube has priority if obstructive processes are present. The presence of large amounts of fluid and secretions within the tracheal lumen requires removal by suction. Once the reptile is stabilized, obstructive processes such as abscesses or foreign bodies within the oral cavity or tracheal lumen should be removed.

This has very good info on reptile resperation.

This thread again was about someons pet. please be compasionate and on topic. If you have facts, or actual experience let us know. This is not about where a human would got or what do do in an emergency.

I gave sound advice , backed by medical research. Trying to help a greving pet owner feel better.

 

[snitz427]

Much better, but we are talking about a chamelion not a person, so this is still irrelevent.
In fact a reptiles respitory is different than a human.

Pleas read.
https://www.vetexotic.theclinics.com/article/S1094-9194(02)00020-8/pdf

and also this exerpt.

Respiratory emergencies Treatment of respiratory emergencies in reptiles follows the same principles known from small animal emergency medicine [12]. In emergency situations, supplemental administration of oxygen via face mask is of short-term benefit. Establishment of a patent airway by endotracheal intubation or placement of a tracheostomy tube has priority if obstructive processes are present. The presence of large amounts of fluid and secretions within the tracheal lumen requires removal by suction. Once the reptile is stabilized, obstructive processes such as abscesses or foreign bodies within the oral cavity or tracheal lumen should be removed.

This has very good info on reptile resperation.

This thread again was about someons pet. please be compasionate and on topic. If you have facts, or actual experience let us know. This is not about where a human would got or what do do in an emergency.

I gave sound advice , backed by medical research. Trying to help a greving pet owner feel better.

I beg to differ. Your article clearly stresses the importance of confirming respiratory disease prior to treatment, and then goes on to suggest intubation, suction, and surgery where necessary.

Let it go - and leave your family member’s oxygen alone.

 

[CasqueAbove]

I beg to differ. Your article clearly stresses the importance of confirming respiratory disease prior to treatment, and then goes on to suggest intubation and suction where necessary.

Let it go - and leave your family member’s oxygen alone.

Get over it. It was a suggestion for an elderly passing animal. Did the article say Oxygen was dangerous ? I Did not suggest this as treatment for cure, but as palliative care. I did not suggest people go get oxygen. I only offered a suggestion that might make the Owner as well as the pet feel better. To disprove me you will have to show that oxygen is toxic to reptiles. I see no evidence of that.
Sure if you over do it it can cause problems. Is this not true of everything.


I notice you spent a lot of time criticizing, but have not offered one suggestion or condolence. Your forum awards do not make you an expert. When people ask for help with a sick animal they are not looking to get ripped apart. They want compassion.