My chameleon belly is big.. still unsure of gender

My chameleons belly is getting way way bigger then the other one I have and idk if it’s just from over eating or if it’s normal or what... also still unsure of gender.
I’m gonna post befor picks of the first time asking about gender two weeks ago and of it now.. just belly has grown way way more then the other one I have wich I no is male.
Then I’ll post picks of the male I do have gender for sure and small belly..

The first 5 were from 2 weeks ago then the next two are today then lastbpick of the dark one is my male
 

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The first two are of the unknown gender as of today and the last dark one is male of today
 

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I am not super familiar with veiled but neither of those look like a male to me.
The last one that is very dark has very big spurs wich everyone said means male..? And “he” gets very very dark literally all day and has stripes but really dark polka dots as well.

As I was told females tend to stay green and don’t change very often unless the colors to let males no thier ready lol wich were blue and yellow?

Not sure if it’s true on the facts just things I read
 
The last one that is very dark has very big spurs wich everyone said means male..? And “he” gets very very dark literally all day and has stripes but really dark polka dots as well.

As I was told females tend to stay green and don’t change very often unless the colors to let males no thier ready lol wich were blue and yellow?

Not sure if it’s true on the facts just things I read
 
But would really appreciate any help.

Also the darker one tends to not be so social as the super green one always likes to be held don’t no if that helps with my problem but
 

AnamCara

Chameleon Enthusiast
The last one that is very dark has very big spurs wich everyone said means male..? And “he” gets very very dark literally all day and has stripes but really dark polka dots as well.

As I was told females tend to stay green and don’t change very often unless the colors to let males no their ready lol which were blue and yellow?

Not sure if it’s true on the facts just things I read

So pretty much all chameleons will change colors -- chameleons do not internally thermoregulate so they have to move closer to the basking light or further away -- and when they need to absorb heat they will turn darker. They will also change color depending on their "mood." I put that in quotations marks because it's more that they change color in reaction to perceived threats, mates -- etc.

A female will have "Receptive" or "Gravid" coloring. I am not certain but usually dark with neon greens are veil's gravid colors. Someone on this forum has a GREAT pic of a very gravid veiled.

Yes, Spurs mean male -- but some females do have tiny tiny tiny spur looking doodads on their back feet. The reason I said all of the chams look females is in the face and casque. Females have a smaller casque, and they also have a different face shape, subtle in veiled. I can't explain the face shape difference very well and I would not call myself an experienced keeper, but the females tend to have a smaller nose and a different slant on the ridge.

Sexing chameleons has been kinda hard on here lately!
 
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