Meller in BAD shape!!! HELP PLZ

[kinyonga]

If its something like CANV (fungus) it won't work to just treat it topically the chameleon will need an antifungal medicine. You will only be able to find out what it is if you do the testing....sorry to say.

 

[JoeG]

I used lotrimin to treat an ugly fungus on a panther. Its the strongest over the counter solution shy of a vet prescription. It took a while to clear up but it did work. Only thing is it would be impossible to know if it was a type of fungus that it would work on because there are different forms. I hope he clears up easily for you.

 

[CauseNAffect]

I've done some reading on canv and it's scary stuff, it even appeared in some ppl who were HIV positive... Yikes

I will try the lotrimin, mabye I'll try also injecting the grapefruit seed extract as well and really give this a go and see how it work before giving into the huge vet bill

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

I've done some reading on canv and it's scary stuff, it even appeared in some ppl who were HIV positive... Yikes

I will try the lotrimin, mabye I'll try also injecting the grapefruit seed extract as well and really give this a go and see how it work before giving into the huge vet bill

Injecting?? What exactly do you mean by that? Please do not inject grape seed oil into the skin or anything as you could actually make an abscess that way.

 

[JackP308]

how long ago did you get him and what user from fauna. You can pm me if you'd like. If I remember correctly you said you got him recent there from an ad.

 

[CauseNAffect]

Yeah I got him fairly recently from fauna from a guy in Brooklyn, he was not in very good shape when I got him, and his condition got worse with stress

I was referring to injecting the feeders I would never touch my Cham with a needle

 

[kinyonga]

I know first hand about CANV because it was my chameleon that started the studies on it here in Canada back in the l990's....before anyone knew what it was.

 

[lindawaz]

I have held my tongue long enough. As said numerous times you need to see a vet. It is not fair to that cham. It is very selfish of you to be trying to treat them in the alley instead of the hospital. I have some of my prescriptions want them in case you get sick?

When you took them across your threshold you accepted responsibility including medical attention when needed.

Take the Cham to a vet. Drink water instead of any other beverages and cut your costs. Go to basic cable. Figure it out, but take the came to a vet Please.

 

[CauseNAffect]

I'd like to say that I really appreciate everyone's thoughts so far and help

My thoughts:

I examined my setup, and I am going to explore the fact that my 100 watt bulb was too close to the basking spot so I moved it to about 15 inches away from the branch below

I am starting with neosporin and I'm going to give very small doses of Baytril so if it is a burn it is controlled.

If not I am prepared to Try lotrimin.

If the doesnt work ill be testing out the vet

That is my plan, if anyone has any other treatments for burns Ill give them a Tru, but I'm going to start exploring treatment this way to cover my bases and slowly rule out things, seems to be the best idea


Thank you all I will keep u updated

 

[ScalesTailsandClaws]

Wouldn't fungus slowly creep across an area and not just pop up in different spots? I can't imagine it's a bruise, i feel like it'd have broken a bone before falling that hard. At least it's eating even though it's not eating enough. That's at least a sign that you're not going to lose him overnight or something.

 

[Thezillaman21]

i\ dont\ think\ its\ a\ fungus\ because\ it\ wouldnt\ change\ color\ with\ the\ chameleon\ when\ the\ chameleon\ stresses\ would\ it\ she\ said\ it\ turns\ white\ when\ he\ is\ mad\ maybe\ a\ burn\ or\ a\ bruise\ not\ a\ fungus

 

[Thezillaman21]

Wouldn't fungus slowly creep across an area and not just pop up in different spots? I can't imagine it's a bruise, i feel like it'd have broken a bone before falling that hard. At least it's eating even though it's not eating enough. That's at least a sign that you're not going to lose him overnight or something.

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[ferretinmyshoes]

A fungal infection can disrupt the architecture of the scales without completely destroying them, therefore allowing some of the function to remain intact and cause some color change ability. The fact that it changes color doesn't rule out a fungus. Like zillaman said, fungal infections do not spread like bacterial infections do. The random appearance of lesions is somewhat typical of fungal. And a chameleon with a problem, even if all else looks normal, can easily die unexpectedly. Dr. Alfonso is a vet who took in a lot of unhealthy imports and many of them that died were the ones that seemed to be doing the best. These animals hide signs of illness for as long as they possible can because they are prey animals and showing illness makes them easy targets. By the time they show any signs they are usually very bad off and "die unexpectedly".

 

[kinyonga]

If its a fungus like CANV or the other recently discovered one...you won't have much time before its too late to save the chameleon...so I hope for your chameleon's sake that its not.

 

[kirstxblue]

I have held my tongue long enough. As said numerous times you need to see a vet. It is not fair to that cham. It is very selfish of you to be trying to treat them in the alley instead of the hospital. I have some of my prescriptions want them in case you get sick?

When you took them across your threshold you accepted responsibility including medical attention when needed.

Take the Cham to a vet. Drink water instead of any other beverages and cut your costs. Go to basic cable. Figure it out, but take the came to a vet Please.

Agreed and I'm glad someone finally said it!!
By takin in any pet, it immediately becomes dependant on you to keep it safe and healthy and if you can't do that for whatever reason, you shouldn't have that animal.

 

[CauseNAffect]

Look, I appreciate all the help so far, and taking it to a vet is an option I will explore if my methods fail... Which is starting to treat for buns, and if it's not a burn then I will seek medical advice for a fungus

However, it easy to just say take it to a vet, which at first I an obvious choice but very short sighted...
Going to the vet means: taking my Cham, putting him in a dark box where he'll sit for a while, jumping in a cab, unboxing him, having a stranger poke at him, putting him back in a box, then back in a cab, then back to his home
If you don't think that alone will kill my Cham then you need to do some more reading and learn more about these creatures because that only can kill him, I'm taking every precaution and option before having to do that

I'm willing to go to a vet, but I'm not going to do more harm before I can figure this out myself, I thought this site was for advice like this I don't know where everyone is on such a high horse preaching responsibility but it sounds stupid consIdering these factors.

Thanks again for those who offered advice. For those who want to play daddy go do it to ur own family

 

[Robyrango]

Look, I appreciate all the help so far, and taking it to a vet is an option I will explore if my methods fail... Which is starting to treat for buns, and if it's not a burn then I will seek medical advice for a fungus

However, it easy to just say take it to a vet, which at first I an obvious choice but very short sighted...
Going to the vet means: taking my Cham, putting him in a dark box where he'll sit for a while, jumping in a cab, unboxing him, having a stranger poke at him, putting him back in a box, then back in a cab, then back to his home
If you don't think that alone will kill my Cham then you need to do some more reading and learn more about these creatures because that only can kill him, I'm taking every precaution and option before having to do that

I'm willing to go to a vet, but I'm not going to do more harm before I can figure this out myself, I thought this site was for advice like this I don't know where everyone is on such a high horse preaching responsibility but it sounds stupid consIdering these factors.

Thanks again for those who offered advice. For those who want to play daddy go do it to ur own family

And it is.. Those people are just worried as a sick chameleon situation can get worse just in few days. Is good trying to figure out things yourself. Just keep a close eye on him, in case something in his behaviour change, like getting lethargic, or not eating. Anything that look unusual. Gook luck with him. Keep us posted. peace

 

[SilverDragoness]

I would like to recommend that you actually listen to those that are giving you valuable advice for free. There have been multiple very well educated replies to your problem. If you continue to wait you are likely allowing the chameleon to further deteriorate. I don't think I have to tell you that they are not necessarily the hardiest of creatures and that if you don't get this fixed your chameleon will most likely die.

Yes, it is easy to say to take it to a vet. That is not short sighted but a realistic expectation of an owner that has taken on an exotic animal. It's not your chameleon's fault that you chose to take on an animal that you can not afford. Not taking him to the vet could mean death as well. Please don't blame a trip on death because typically when that happens it is because you let the animal wait until the point that it's already going to die anyway. Don't lie to yourself thinking that you are taking every precaution and option because that's not the truth. If you can't afford the vet don't get the pet.

Honestly, I wouldn't have replied except for you are being insulting to those that are trying to help you and explain why they think that is what is going on. If you aren't interested in reading and trying to understand what people are telling you why bother? People tried to be subtle and kind to you and when that didn't work they tried being more blunt and you respond by insults. We are sorry that your beautiful creature is not doing well. We do want to help but you need listen to the advice given by experienced keepers.

 

[Texas Panther Man]

I believe this cham needs medical attention I was the first person to suggest that along with cultures being run on the affected areas. The OP has a point though its not as easy as just taking this cham to a vet. There are not many vets even in urban areas that know what the heck they are doing treating a chameleon. Even fewer that know how & where to send samples so that cultures can be run in a lab so that the particular type of fungus (If thats what we are dealing with here.) can be identified and a treatment formulated. The expense of all this is just a small part of the problem. The hard part is finding an experienced vet that knows what to do and where to go to get the answers he's looking for. A vet cant do all that in his/her office normally unless your using someone like Dr Alfonso that also breeds chams. Jmpo from previous exp in dealing with chams with illnesses.

 

[ferretinmyshoes]

ITS NOT A BURN. it wouldn't be spreading and a lil spot on it's knee wouldn't just come from a burn, just trust me that im fairly certain they aren't burns since they are sporatic in position and coming up new daily.

I believe it's a fungus

And now you are treating for a burn first and think we're being ridiculous? I'm sorry you think we are being unreasonable but we truly only have genuine concern for your chameleon. It would be in the best interest of your pet to get him medical care, and while that may be hard in some places I can assure you that New York City does have knowledgable exotic vets who could help. You took in this animal by boxing it up and transporting it and it seemed to survive didn't it? While it is strong enough now I would suggest calling around and finding that competent vet to help you instead of toying around while he deteriorates and then try to take him and blame us for him doing poorly after ignoring our advice.

You came for advice and we gave it to you. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but sometimes the truth isn't the easiest road, but that doesn't make it any less true.

Yes, it is easy to say to take it to a vet. That is not short sighted but a realistic expectation of an owner that has taken on an exotic animal. It's not your chameleon's fault that you chose to take on an animal that you can not afford. Not taking him to the vet could mean death as well. Please don't blame a trip on death because typically when that happens it is because you let the animal wait until the point that it's already going to die anyway. Don't lie to yourself thinking that you are taking every precaution and option because that's not the truth. If you can't afford the vet don't get the pet.

*applause*