Making Cham cages on meth, never once...

[nightanole]

https://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Habitat-for-Your-Chameleon

 

[janjan20]

? Oh boy...

 

[MissSkittles]

Holy crap! We’re all doing it so very wrong! And I just got rid of my extra aquarium tanks...what ever will I do?

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

I'm afraid to ask...

 

[kinyonga]

And it was written by a vet???
"This article was co-authored by Jaime Nalezny, DVM. Dr. Jaime Nalezny is an exotic animal veterinarian with over 15 years of experience, focusing on the care of birds, reptiles, amphibians, and exotic small mammals. Dr. Nalezny founded The Iguana Relocation Network and is on the board of directors for Midwest Avian Adoption & Rescue Services. She graduated from the University of Minnesota College of Veterinary Medicine in 2005"

 

[jamest0o0]

And it was written by a vet???
"This article was co-authored by Jaime Nalezny, DVM. Dr. Jaime Nalezny is an exotic animal veterinarian with over 15 years of experience, focusing on the care of birds, reptiles, amphibians, and exotic small mammals. Dr. Nalezny founded The Iguana Relocation Network and is on the board of directors for Midwest Avian Adoption & Rescue Services. She graduated from the University of Minnesota College of Veterinary Medicine in 2005"

Not surprised, most vets aren't too knowledgeable on reptile care. Very nice to have one that is.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

I'm sorry, are we all reading the same article? The article the link takes me to cites a Pippa Elliott, MRCVS as co-author. Searching the article for "Jaime Nalezny" yields bupkis; that name does not appear on the page.

I also find: "Co-authors: 19" (which I took to mean the authors of all the references cited, BICBW).
That seems to be a lot of cooks in the kitchen, IMO

I confess I'm also not getting the controversy—or joke—or whatever (hence my hesitancy to ask...),
though I'm still at early-mid stage of my learning curve. This also makes me wonder if we're all on the same page... literally.

 

[jamest0o0]

I'm sorry, are we all reading the same article? The article the link takes me to cites a Pippa Elliott, MRCVS as co-author. Searching the article for "Jaime Nalezny" yields bupkis; that name does not appear on the page.

I also find: "Co-authors: 19" (which I took to mean the authors of all the references cited, BICBW).
That seems to be a lot of cooks in the kitchen, IMO

I confess I'm also not getting the controversy—or joke—or whatever (hence my hesitancy to ask...),
though I'm still at early-mid stage of my learning curve. This also makes me wonder if we're all on the same page... literally.

Just some goofy advice. Use aquariums, have a fountain for water, orchid bark for substrate, etc. I have kids and no time to meticulously scan much of anything over, but that's what I got out of it when I opened the link.

 

[nightanole]

Just some goofy advice. Use aquariums, have a fountain for water, orchid bark for substrate, etc. I have kids and no time to meticulously scan much of anything over, but that's what I got out of it when I opened the link.

You are missing out:

Bathe your chameleon. If you don’t want to get so extensive that you rewire your home’s plumbing and give up an entire room, you could satisfy your chameleon’s sanitary and water needs another way. Put your chameleon on a small tree (a fig tree would work nicely) and place the tree/chameleon combo in the mist for about 30-45 minutes every other day.[18] Set the water to a lukewarm temperature. This will give the chameleon the opportunity to bathe, defecate, and drink water. Let the tree and chameleon get relatively dry, then move them back into the free-range room.

 

[jamest0o0]

You are missing out:

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Well I do almost exactly that for my parson's who's on a free range in the winter

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

You are missing out:

Bathe your chameleon. If you don’t want to get so extensive that you rewire your home’s plumbing and give up an entire room, you could satisfy your chameleon’s sanitary and water needs another way. Put your chameleon on a small tree (a fig tree would work nicely) and place the tree/chameleon combo in the mist for about 30-45 minutes every other day.[18] Set the water to a lukewarm temperature. This will give the chameleon the opportunity to bathe, defecate, and drink water. Let the tree and chameleon get relatively dry, then move them back into the free-range room.

Might as well put the cham-laden tree in the shower with a mist setting, eh?
(The old, "Conserve water—Shower with a friend!" adage.)

 

[jamest0o0]

Might as well put the cham-laden tree in the shower with a mist setting, eh?
(The old, "Conserve water—Shower with a friend!" adage.)

Exactly what I do

 

[nightanole]

Exactly what I do

And do dishes at the same time

I might have had less of a laugh if it looked more like a mister, vs someone with a garden hose.

 

[jamest0o0]

And do dishes at the same time

I might have had less of a laugh if it looked more like a mister, vs someone with a garden hose.

Lol I know I laughed at it too

 

[Beman]

Yeah the whole article I was like, um nope and nope. Then I got to the part where it was co authored by a Vet. And 25,000 reads... Well lets all hope the people that found that went on to find accurate information.

 

[kinyonga]

I'm worried that they're going to see...vet author...and say...oh...it must be good information. Sad.

 

[Klyde O'Scope]

The jest I made about putting the tree in the shower apparently wasn't too far off. The article's first reference is from an article in Reptiles Magazine, which says in part:

Shower

There are products on the market specifically for chameleons that provide a constant source of dripping water for drinking. These are not used in the room described here, however. Next to this room is a bathroom, in which another small weeping fig is kept. Every two days, the chameleon is placed on the weeping fig and both tree and lizard are placed in the shower. A gentle, tepid “rain” is then showered upon the tree and chameleon for 30 to 45 minutes. During the shower, the chameleon drinks and, almost always, defecates (making waste management very easy).

Third reference comes here. (I guess they're not ALL bad... )
#8 is a veterinary hospital with exotic mammal certification, but no herp cert.
#17 is by a couple; cham keepers w/ 5 yrs. experience.

The remainder of citations are split between Reptiles Magazine and a site called chameleoncare.net, which seems to be a bit (pun intended) cagey about who they are.

I don't know much yet, except life experience that most articles contain both good & not-so-good information, and forums always seem to know better than authors & professionals. That's not a criticism; it's an observation.