Jackson Genetics Question

[Maki]

Hi there. I have a question regarding Jackson's genetics. I have bred angelfish before and know certain genetic traits exist in populations and are often unseen because they are masked by other dominate traits.

With fish some of these genes have been found and bred for. I was wondering if anyone has seen recessive traits in Jackson's and how one could go about finding them and then possibly breeding for it.

I once had a Jackson that had a fourth horn and had always hoped to breed for this trait but he sadly ran off before I could (I live in Hawaii and he lived in a bonzai tree I had but I forgot to feed him one day so he looked for greener pastures). I recently acquired another male Jackson and after 6 months he is almost full size and I am thinking about breeding him to a female but not sure what I should look for.

Appreciate any suggestions!!

Aloha

 

[JeffJo]

Do you have any pictures of the Jax with a forth horn? I would very much like to see that. And I'm not even sure if there are many differences that you could breed for in Xanths(besides deformities like a forth horn), but like super large horns, a larger total size, or a different color morph would be cool.

If only...

 

[Lathis]

Hahaha! I fell for that photo for about 2 seconds!

"Wow, that's a crazy mutation!"

LOL

 

[JeffJo]

Hahaha! I fell for that photo for about 2 seconds!

"Wow, that's a crazy mutation!"

LOL

Haha

 

[Hawaiian style]

I live in Hawaii too! I would think you would be able to breed horned females. My female has wild colors but she's still young.

 

[JeffJo]

Not to be a party pooper but don't some T.J. Jacksonii females already have 3 horns? I guess it would be cool for a Xanth female to have them also but something crazy like a 4th horn or different color morph would be cooler. A Jax that's blue like Nosy Be would be awesome but I don't know if it's possible and it would probably take a while to get any significant variations.

 

[Hawaiian style]

I'm pretty sure I answered the question correctly he asked about breeding out recessive genes, horned females are exactly that. Huge difference in receccive genes and a genetic mutation...

 

[JeffJo]

I'm pretty sure I answered the question correctly he asked about breeding out recessive genes, horned females are exactly that. Huge difference in receccive genes and a genetic mutation...

I know that there is a huge difference in recessive genes and mutations but breeding a female Xanths to have horns like a female Mt. Kenya Jax is like breeding a line Huskys or German Shepards back into wolfs, I just don't see the point. But I'm sure that there are some Xanths that have more blue or turquoise than others, and that could probably be bred for.

Edit - You're right about female horns being a recessive trait that could be easily achieved but I think that maybe something like a common slight mutation like more turquoise or extra large horns could be bred for. And that picture I posted was a joke, I know that is impossible XD.

 

[Lathis]

IAnd that picture I posted was a joke, I know that is impossible XD.

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

[JeffJo]

Noooooooooooooooooooooo!

Just making sure

 

[Maki]

Thanks for all the replies!! And that was a sick photo JeffJo!

Sadly I don't have any pictures of the four horned male.. It was a small horn that grew out the top of his large horn above his nostrils. It was much smaller, but clearly there.

Also, I should have broadened my question. I said recessive traits because it would be something pre-existing and fully developed (only masked by other traits) that would simply need to be found. For example.. A breeding pair has 25% offspring with vertical stripes, blue dots, black horns, etc. Some trait usually not seen. If someone has found a trait (idk say red in the tail) and bred for it and saw over several generations that the trait became more prominent that would be good to know too.

If someone has seen recessive traits it would indicate others exist. I have already noticed the male Jackson's look different on Maui from Oahu. More yellow and spotted but less intricate patterns.

Since we only are allowed to have Jackson's out here it is tempting to try and breed for these recessive traits to see more variety. A Jackson's w four horns or red coloring...

 

[deadhd5]

I guess it would be cool for a Xanth female to have them also but something crazy like a 4th horn or different color morph would be cooler.

Xanth females can 0,1, or 3 horns.

 

[Maki]

Hey guys,

Only heard about females w horns. Any other traits to speak of in the Jackson world?