Is this normal?

[petkel]

Hi..i have two veiled chameleons, they are low white piebalds and they are nearly 8 weeks old. I know panther chams show different colours but i thought veileds only show yellow, green those kinda colours but my female has two blue lines at each side of her head and didn't think veileds can show blues. Can you tell me if i am wrong..thank you..petkel..

 

[Thompson]

Can you post a picture?

 

[petkel]

these are the pics, you might not beable to see this clearly as they are pics taken from my phone..the streaks on her head are a hell of a lot lighter than this in real life and look fluorescent and are on the other side of her head too..

 

[ruru]

maybe she is special
my female veiled will show blue on occasion
is it there constantly ?

 

[petkel]

I have had her for 4 days and everytime i have looked at her it has been there, i have never seen it disappear yet, that is the only was i can tell she is my female lol as i have another..

 

[dodolah]

Petkel, just as a general overview, your chameleon is on the thin side.
A healthy chameleon should have a plumper casque.
Do you mind filling out the help form as far as your husbandry goes?

I could not see a blue line you are talking about.. Perhaps, a clearer picture would help everyone here see what exactly that line is. With that, we can be sure what it is before giving the specific advise.

Since you only got her for 4 days, keep the number of the breeder/ the store you got her from handy..
in my honest opinion, she doesn't looked to be in a tiptop condition.

Do you have a herpvet nearby?

 

[petkel]

Hi..i am new here so i am not suer where the help form is so i will post it here..i am using a sun glo bulb at 60w and a 26w uv bulb they are both exo terra brand, they are both in a 18x18x24 inch viv and i have been feeding them crickets size 2's and dusting them in calcium, they do share the same viv..one cham is bigger than the other, they are both the same age..someone has suggested separating them to make sure they both are eating a good amount..i am getting a new viv tomorrow so i can separate them if you suggest anything more to help these guy's i will be very appreciative..thank you..petkel..

 

[petkel]

Just to add that she had been hiding alot and has not gone up to the uv/basking light that much either but the other cham seems the opposite..

 

[Miss Lily]

He is probably dominating her and making her stressed. I would suggest separating them as planned as soon as you can - they will both be happier chams when you do. Chameleons are solitary animals and another's presence will cause them stress.

 

[Jonasburns]

Hi..i am new here so i am not suer where the help form is so i will post it here

Abracadabra! I am such the dork. lol

Help Form

 

[dodolah]

Hi..i am new here so i am not suer where the help form is so i will post it here..i am using a sun glo bulb at 60w and a 26w uv bulb they are both exo terra brand, they are both in a 18x18x24 inch viv and i have been feeding them crickets size 2's and dusting them in calcium, they do share the same viv..one cham is bigger than the other, they are both the same age..someone has suggested separating them to make sure they both are eating a good amount..i am getting a new viv tomorrow so i can separate them if you suggest anything more to help these guy's i will be very appreciative..thank you..petkel..

As soon as possible separate the two.
The one you have in the picture seems emaciated. The possible reason could be the one Miss Lily suggested. The bigger cham probably got all the food and the water.

 

[Jonasburns]

The one you have in the picture seems emaciated.

Once this happens for an extended period of time will the animal need to be kept on an easy to digest diet or eased back into regular prey items?

 

[petkel]

What foods are easy to digest?

 

[dodolah]

Once this happens for an extended period of time will the animal need to be kept on an easy to digest diet or eased back into regular prey items?

Depending on what do you mean by an easy to digest diet.
Can you specify a bit more on that?

 

[Jonasburns]

Depending on what do you mean by an easy to digest diet.
Can you specify a bit more on that?

Normally say for mammals this would be "pre chewed foods" baby foods and such. More to the point is do problems arise from feeding / over feeding after having been starved? If so how is that handled

 

[petkel]

I have seen her eating crickets..i have witnessed her eat about 6 of then today..i fed her a wax worm too..how many crickets on average should 7 week old chams be eating?...You can not feed chameleons baby food you donut!!

 

[Jonasburns]

I'm sorry i didnt mean to hijack your thread. And i have seen threads of people using syringe's to force feed baby food in extreme situations.

That is what im trying to ask about. Not necessarily your situation

 

[petkel]

Well i am going to separate them tomorrow and see how it goes..on the meantime i am going to look for a vet to be safe..

 

[dodolah]

Normally say for mammals this would be "pre chewed foods" baby foods and such. More to the point is do problems arise from feeding / over feeding after having been starved? If so how is that handled

So, you are thinking along the line of blended insects or some sort of a bug juice (yum yum )? Normally, chameleon has no interest at all in eating anything that isn't moving. So, to make it drink the bug juice, we would literally have to force feed the chameleon.
Force feeding is incredibly stressful.

If the chameleon is still actively hunting for food or still have the initiative of eating on its own, I would feed the chameleon just like normal.

There is an article about the benefit of feeding certain live insects when your chameleon is sick. I will try to find the article. But, i need a bit time looking for it.

To stay relevant to Petkel's thread, in his/ her case, I would recommend giving the chameleon soft bodied insects such as hornworms, silkworms, and even waxworms to plump up and hydrate the chameleon.

If the chameleon is no longer taking food, only then, I would resort to force feeding it a bug juice. I will only force feed my cham when I see the benefit outweigh the stress I am implementing.

 

[petkel]

cool cool..i have wax worms..how many should i give and over a period of time?..