How to discriminate female Oustalet's Chameleon and female Furcifer verrucosus ？

[Owl]

How to discriminate female Oustalet's Chameleon and female Furcifer verrucosus ？

thanks!

i read some informations but i am puzzled still ...

i read this web page: http://online-field-guide.com/Furciferoustaleti.htm

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

Female F. oustaleti are normally green or red and are a larger chameleon. While a F. verrucosus females look very similar to female F.pardalis. They tend to be brown with a exception for the sub species and are midsized. Sorry no photos.

 

[Owl]

Female F. oustaleti are normally green or red and are a larger chameleon. While a F. verrucosus females look very similar to female F.pardalis. They tend to be brown with a exception for the sub species and are midsized. Sorry no photos.

thank you !
can you tell me what is it ?

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

I could attempt to ID the specimen if you have got pictures. They can be extremely variable compared to female F. pardalis.

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

I would say thats a female Furcifer verrocosus.

 

[Owl]

I would say thats a female Furcifer verrocosus.

thanks a lot!

 

[Chase]

I actually think that is a Furcifer oustaleti. Reason being is the verrucosus I have seen are never that large, nor do they have that large of a "casque".

 

[eriksorg]

LPR is correct....that is an Oustalet...

 

[eriksorg]

Here's a female Verrucosus>>>

 

[Chris Anderson]

She's the same species we told you she was in your last thread (https://www.chameleonforums.com/what-varietys-2-chams-70337/), a female Furcifer oustaleti. You can see what a female F. verrucosus looks like in this post: https://www.chameleonforums.com/20-so-new-pictures-sambava-verrucosus-61608/#post574885

 

[Kent67]

Two easy ways to tell the difference: 1. the cheek scales in F. verrucosus are much larger than in F. oustaleti. 2. The dorsal crest is very, very reduced in F. verrucosus compared to F. oustaleti. In verrucosus the dorsal crest will usually not extend beyond the first half of the body.

It's still an Oustalet's.

 

[tadeusz]

Yes, have to agree with Oustalet male. I have three oustalet males and he looks similar. The female oustalet's are very green, like a veiled green.

Here are some of my males pics from a little while back...

 

[tadeusz]

Here's a female Verrucosus>>>

Are you going to be doing some Verrucosus breeding anytime soon?

 

[Chris Anderson]

Yes, have to agree with Oustalet male. I have three oustalet males and he looks similar. The female oustalet's are very green, like a veiled green.

The animal in the photo posted by the OP of this thread is not a male, its a female. Female Furcifer oustaleti are not always green and in fact frequently show the tan background with red barring on the body. Here's an example:

Chris

 

[tadeusz]

Yes, that is very true! I have seen some of those colorations on the females as well. It is hard to tell from the pic, but his does look similar to my males. But, the bars are a little different then my guys and the pic you posted more closely resembles the pic in this thread.

Kudos, Chris - I'm sure you have seen quite a few more females than I have and living in Florida, I'm sure you have seen the populations there too.

 

[eriksorg]

No tad...I'm kinda lay-n low with the chameleons for now....that was young female I bought last year on a deal I just couldn't resist!!!! Going crazy with the dart frogs now and I'll always have my tortoises...but someday ill get back into the chameleons....

 

[tadeusz]

No tad...I'm kinda lay-n low with the chameleons for now....that was young female I bought last year on a deal I just couldn't resist!!!! Going crazy with the dart frogs now and I'll always have my tortoises...but someday ill get back into the chameleons....

Very nice!! I don't want to rob this thread, but once I finish school, I'm going to give breeding a shot as soon as I can find a good quality CB female Oustalet. But I checked out his other thread and I'm definitely on board with the female Oustalet! The other pics are very clear with the coloration.

 

[eriksorg]

Ill give you all the breeding info (Oustalet)you need when you get started....I'd be very happy to do that for you!!!

 

[Motherlode Chameleon]

She's the same species we told you she was in your last thread (https://www.chameleonforums.com/what-varietys-2-chams-70337/), a female Furcifer oustaleti. You can see what a female F. verrucosus looks like in this post: https://www.chameleonforums.com/20-so-new-pictures-sambava-verrucosus-61608/#post574885

Seems I ID this one wrong. That happens sometimes without an ID key. Thanks for the correction.

 

[Owl]

I actually think that is a Furcifer oustaleti. Reason being is the verrucosus I have seen are never that large, nor do they have that large of a "casque".

Thank you for you correction！