His cage is 12 by 12 by 24 so it's a decent size. My other veiled will crawl all over me. Ever since the day I bought him he has hated his cage and as soon as I open the top he crawls right up my arm and when I try to put him back he runs the other way right back to my shoulder lol. Every Cham is different, I'm just glad I got to hold both of mine.